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Lineages and Results of Y-DNA Testing for STRAUB, TRAUB, STRAUBE, STROOP, STRUB,
and Variations, especially STROUP, STROUPE, TROUP, TROUPE, etc.
Haplogroup R1b = R-M269
Results
Hub		 Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
(number tested at FTDNA + number tested elsewhere / number of different progenitors)		 Project
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E (1 / 1)  I1  (4 / 3) I1-L592 (31 / 1)  I2  (14 / 6) J2 (5 / 2) R1a (2 / 1) R1b (25 / 19) T (1 / 1)
R1b is the most common haplogroup subclade in western Europe (see distribution maps).  Having such a common haplotype means most R1b's will have to test more markers (minimally 67 and preferably 111) to gain separation from those only distantly related (beyond "genealogical time") and to reduce the possibility of a coincidental match.  Deep SNP testing can also serve to separate those with coincidentally matching haplotypes. 
Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype — WAMH
Of the many haplotypes represented within R1b, the most common 12-marker haplotypes are called the "Western Atlantic Modal Haplotypes."   FTDNA members whose 12-marker haplotype matches one of the four most common 12-marker R1b haplotypes will find they have a WAMH logo on their member page. 
In the results tables below, the modal haplotypes are highlighted in cyan and are used as a standard against which to compare our R1b members. 
Twenty-five project members are Haplogroup R1b; they fall into four subclades and 19 families. 
R1b
Haplogroup
Subclade		 D
e
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e		 Member
Surname		 Earliest Known Patrilineal Ancestor n
R-M269 1 STROOP Johannes STRUBE (c1740s-1786) — Germany > Rowan Co., NC 1
STROUD Adam STROUD — VA to NC to AR 1
2 STRAUB Josef / Joseph STRAUB (1673-1753) — Bieringen, Württemberg 3
3 STRAUB Frantz Xavier STRAUB (c1790- ) — Felldorf, Württemberg 1
4 STROUP Joseph STROUP (1790s-1840s) — PA > Hamilton Co., OH > Shelby Co., IN 3
STRAUBE Christian STRAUBE (1789-1867) — PA > Bracken Co., KY > Franklin Co., IN > Audrain Co., MO
STROUP John STROUP (1800/1-1859) of Mifflin Co., PA
5 STROUP Philip STRAUB / STROUP (1802-1875) — Clarion Co., PA 1
6 STROUP Elisha STRAUB (1822->1880) — Union/Lancaster Cos., PA > St. Joseph Co., MI > Woodbury Co., IA 1
7 TRAUB Georg Michael TRAUB — Bretzfeld, Württemberg 2
TRAUB Johann Friederich TRAUB — Brettach, Württemberg
8 TRAUB Mauritius/Moritz TRAUB (1593-) of Rappach, Bretzfeld, Württemberg 1
9 STROUP George STROUP (c1780->1850) — Germantown, PA 1
10 STROUB Henry STROUB (c1779-1866) — SC > New York City, NY 1
11 STROUP SELLERS NPE in line from Lawson Sidney STROUP (1879-1924) — Gaston Co., NC > Broward Co., FL 1
12 STROUP NEWHOUSE NPE in line from John Peter STROUP (1760-1857) — Wythe Co., VA 1
16 STRAUB Christian STRAUB (1820-1883) — Bavaria > New York City, NY > Baltimore, MD > NYC 1
17 STROUP Jacob Decatur STROUP (1828-1911) — SC > AL > IL 1
18 STRAUB Michael STRAUB (c1780s- ) — of Bühlerzell, Württemberg 1
R-U106 13 STRAUB Aloysius STRAUB (c1800s-1840s) — Alsace-Lorraine > Buffalo, NY > St. Joseph, MO 1
R-A5011 19 STRAUB Mathias STRAUB (1736- ) — born Renquishausen, Tuttlingen, Duchy of Württemberg 1
R-L1 14 STRAUB Carl / Charles STRAUB (1863- ) — Württemberg > Philadelphia, PA  1
R-BY470 15 STROUP DOUGHERTY NPE in line from John Peter STROUP (1760-1857) — Wythe Co., VA 1
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Deme 1
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UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
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R-P312 Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                             
STROOP 13668         13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9  9 11 12 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 12 14 11                                                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, John Robert5, Jacob Landrum4, John Moore3, Jacob2 STROOP, Johannes1 STRUBE — of Germany > Rowan Co., NC > Rutherford Co., TN
STROUD 344635         13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9  9 11 12 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 37 37 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 12 14 11   34 15 9 16 11 28 26 19 12 11 12 12 10 9 12 11 11 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 19 15 20 13 24 17 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 13 11   Pvt8, Pvt7, Robert Chasmer6, James Wesley5, William Scott4, John Perkins3, Adam2, Adam1 STROUD (c1740s- ) — WV > IL
Given that our subjects match the R1b modal haplotype at 12 markers, it's no surprise that they have thousands of 12/12 matches, including several in this project.  They still have near matches at 25, 37, and 67 markers, but their only close match at 67 markers is with each other.  Still, I would recommend that #13668 upgrade to 111 markers to eliminate the last of these near matches and solidify the match between them.
           

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Deme 2
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Surname Kit# Ysearch
UserID		 Most
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Tested		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
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R-P312 Modal Values     13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                           
STRAUB 34442   P25   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17   11 10 19 23 17 15 16 17 37 40 11 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt9, Pvt8, Joseph7, Jonas6, Melchior5, Joseph Carl4, Joseph3, Johannes2, Joseph1 — subject and ancestor of Bieringen, Württemberg
STRAUB 37265 FT6MQ     13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 15 16   11 10 19 23 16 16 16 17 38 40 11 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt(1st cousin to #23425)10, Pvt9, Joseph C.8, Joseph7, Casper6, Erasmus5, Joseph Carl4, Joseph3,Johannes2, Joseph1 — ancestor of Bieringen, Württemberg
STRAUB 23425 VFZXZ     13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 15 16   11 10 19 23 16 16 16 17 38 40 11 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt(1st cousin to #37265)10, Pvt9, Joseph C.8, Joseph7, Casper6, Erasmus5, Joseph Carl4, Joseph3, Johannes2, Joseph1 — ancestor of Bieringen, Württemberg
These STRAUBs have hundreds of full matches at 12 markers and hundreds of near matches at 25 markers, but no full matches at 37 markers.  The only near match at 37 markers is the 36/37 match between the two cousins, #37265 and #23425.  The bright green table cell represents a mutation event between one cousin (#23425) and his grandfather, Joseph8; descendants of these two cousins will be separable by their Y-DNA.
Two of these three are 12/12 matches for the WAMH, so have a WAMH logo on their member page; however, the mutation carried by #23425 at DYS385b (the green table cell) drops him out of the "top four" ranking of most common R1b haplotypes, so he does not bear a WAMH logo, despite the fact that his first cousin does.
A match of only 32/37 between #34442 and #23425 would usually be considered a weak relationship, yet the paper connections between these 4th cousins (once removed) appears solid.  I would recommend upgrading to 67 markers to see if the match doesn't improve; that is, that we might find no differences in markers 38-67, which would bring the overall match more into line with what would be expected from cousins this closely related.  It would also help to test more cousins (on different lines) on the presumption that these other lines would fall "in between" these individuals, forming a "bridge" between them.  In that sense, #37265 provides one step of that bridge because he is a 33/37 match with #34442. 
As part of its "Haplogroup Assurance" policy, #34442 has received a gratis backbone SNP test from FTDNA.  The result of P25+ proves he is R1b1.
Despite the geographic proximity of Bieringen and Felldorf — villages in Württemberg just four miles apart — these Bieringen STRAUBs and the Felldorf STRAUBs (see below) have matches in the range of only 24/37 to 26/37, so they are not closely related.
           

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Deme 3
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Surname Kit# Ysearch
UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
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R-P312 Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                         
STRAUB 34437 DSJS7   13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 16 17 18   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 18 35 40 12 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt6, Pvt5, Francis Xavier4, Peter P.3, Anton2, Frantz Xavier1 — ancestor of Felldorf, Württemberg
#34437 has a common 12-marker haplotype with hundreds of 12/12 matches in other surnames and four near matches within the project (see other R1b's above).  However, the close relationship with the other R1b's at 12 markers breaks down at 25 markers, so despite the geographic proximity of the Felldorf and Bieringen STRAUBs, they do not appear to be closely related (see above).  Outside the project, in other surnames, this subject has a few dozen near matches at 25 markers and one distant match at 37 markers.  At 37 markers, this line remains unique and easily identifiable.  Further testing might show him to be a match with the individual in Deme 18 below.
           

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Deme 4
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(Genetic Distance is from the Family Modal, not the Haplogroup R-P312 Modal.)
Genetic Distance
(per panel)		 Surname Kit# Ysearch
UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
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5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
Haplogroup R-P312 Modal Values XQJ7H   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17       11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
Family Modal Values     13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 18 15 15   12 11 19 23 15 15 18 18 39 38 11 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 17 10 12 12 15 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 10 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                           
0 1 0 0   STROUP 45729 MHVZS   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 18       12 11 19 23 15 15 18 18 39 38 11 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 17 10 12 12 15 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 14 10 11 13 12                                                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, Pvt5, George Tirl4, Joseph Benjamin3, William Jacob2, Joseph1 STROUP (1790s-1840s) — PA > Hamilton Co., OH > Shelby Co., IN See discussion given 
on a page for hypothetical
common ancestor.
0 2 2 0   STROUP 341915     13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 18 15 14   12 11 19 23 15 15 19 18 38 38 11 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 17 10 12 12 15 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 14 10 11 13 12                                                                                             Pvt6, Pvt5, Lawrence Allen4, John David3, William F.2, John1 STROUP (c1801-1859) — of Mifflin Co., PA
1 0 1 1   STRAUBE 175342     13 24 15 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 18 15 15   12 11 19 23 15 15 18 18 39 37 11 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 17 10 12 12 15 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 14 11 11 13 12                                                                                             Pvt6, Pvt5, Everett James4, James Josephus3, James E.2, Christian1 STRAUBE (1789-1867) — PA > Bracken Co., KY > Franklin Co., IN > Audrain Co., MO
These matches were a surprise because nothing in their paper genealogy suggests they would be related.  Please see further discusson on this page.
I strongly recommend all three upgrade to 111 markers to see if this match holds up.  This may be one of those rare cases where a weak match at 67 markers in Hg R1b falls apart at 111 markers.
In the case of the markers with multiple alleles (e.g., 385, 464, and CDY) the actual order of the alleles is not know, so by convention, the are listed alphanumerically.  When comparing them, first put them in the order producing the least difference between them, then calculate the genetic distance.
DYS464 is one of the most volatile of all the markers, with multiple alleles often changing in a single mutation event, including gain and loss of one or more alleles.  Only about 1.5% of people tested have more than four alleles at this marker, so having six is distinctive — and suggests the two who have them are more related to each other than they are to the one who doesn't.   The logical sequence of events here could be that 1) the two 15 alleles were duplicated in one mutation event, and 2) one of the 15 alleles mutated to 14.  Note that when compiling genetic distance, these are taken as two mutations events, not three.
CDYa/b is another volatile marker that is prone to having one allele write over the other.  The probable sequence here is not clear and could be convoluted.
           

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User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12  
           
STROUP 64359     13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 17                                                                                     Pvt6, Pvt5, Arthur L.4, Charles L.3, James Sterrett2, Philip1— of Clarion Co., PA
#64359 has hundreds of 12/12 matches (in other surnames), and dozens of near matches at 25 markers (in other surnames); however, he has no full matches at 25 markers.  His best match at Ysearch is one at 16 markers (in another surname), and his best matches at SMGF are 19/20 (in other surnames).  I would not attach any significance to any of these matches outside his surname; so, with regard to his STRAUB / STROUP relationships, his haplotype remains unique and easily distinguishable.
   

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User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12  
           
STROUP 112582     13 24 15 10 11 14 12 13 11 13 13 29                                                                                                               Pvt6, Pvt5, Philip Thornton4, Harry Eli3, Eli Slifer2, Elisha1 — of Union Co., PA
This individual has a rare haplotype, with not even a remote match within the project and with only three 12/12 matches in the FTDNA and Ysearch databases (in other surnames).  It will be a waiting game for a STROUP match…
   

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User ID		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12  
           
TRAUB 132965   13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 30 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 12 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 37 38 11 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, Charles5, Johann Georg4, Georg Heinrich3, Johann Georg2, Georg Michael1 — of Bretzfeld, Wuerttemberg
TRAUB 141144   13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 37 38 11 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, Wilhelm Gottlieb5, Johann Christian4, Johann Gottfired3, Christoph Friederich2, Johann Friederich1 — of Brettach, Wuerttemberg
These two individuals have rare haplotypes, with fewer than a dozen 12/12 matches in the FTDNA database and fewer still in the Ysearch database (all in other surnames).  They have a handful near matches at 25 makers, but no full matches, and no full or even near matches at 37 markers.  A researcher is seeking to test descendants of known TRAUBs in geographical proximity to these individuals.  Please contact the project admin if you are such a TRAUB or know of one.
   

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UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                         
TRAUB 143048     13 22 15 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28   17 9  9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 18   11 12 19 23 16 15 17 18 37 37 12 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt… Mauritius/Moritz TRAUB (1593-) of Rappach, Bretzfeld, Württemberg
This individual has no significant matches in the FTDNA database, which means he also doesn't match the TRAUBs in the table above.
           

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User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12  
           
STROUP 157339     13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 17 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 15 17 36 39 12 12                                                             Pvt6, Pvt5, Russell M.4, Oliver P.3, Anthony G.2, George1 — of Germantown, PA
This individual has several dozen matches at 12 markers, but these fall away at 25 markers and disappear at 37 markers.  So, as of now, he has no significant matches. 
   

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UserID		 FF   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values     13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                           
STROUB 305973 WZ7EV Y   13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 28   19 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 28 14 15 16 17   11 11 19 23 15 15 17 17 34 37 13 12   11 9 16 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 14 10 12 12 14 8 12 22 21 14 12 11 13 11 11 13 12                                                                                             Pvt6, Pvt5, Stephen Norris4, John L.3, George Washington2, Henry1 STROUB (1771-1865) — Charleston, SC > New York City, NY
This individual has an 11/12 match with another STRAUB (#452893, Deme 19, R1b-U106), but the match completely falls apart at more markers.  He has no significant matches at 25 markers, and at 37 or 67 markers, no matches at all.  So far, he has no FF match with STROUB or variations.  I recommend our subject take the BigY test to determine his haplogroup subclade, then join the appropriate haplogroup projects as his results will be of interest to haplogroup researchers.
           

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Deme 11 — SELLERS-STROUP NPE

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Deme 12 — NEUHAUS-STROUP NPE

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Deme 13 — R1b-U106

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Deme 14
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Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
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3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
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4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
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G
A
T
A		 IIa
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Y
C
A		 IIb
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Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
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C
D
Y		 b
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C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
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S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
null439 Cluster 1 Modal Values 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 0 13 13 29 17  9  9 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 16 16 18 17 38 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 15 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 Modals for Null-439 as of 11 Apr 2007; markers in red, yellow, or orange are differences from Modal R1b.
           
STRAUB 82917     13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 0 14 13 30 17  9  9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 15 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 10 11 13 12 Pvt4, Pvt3, Gustav August2, Charles/Carl1 — immigrant to Philadelphia from Wuerttemberg in 1881
#82917 has a null value at DYS439 (red table cell), meaning the indicator used to locate the marker has been lost, so no count of STRs could be made.  The change in the indicator is a SNP mutation (S26+ = L1+), and this mutation defines Haplogroup R-1b1a-2a1a-1a3.  The mutation appears to have arisen about 2500 to 3500 years ago.  Note that FTDNA will show a value of 12 for the marker on the assumption that the modal value is what the count would most likely be if it could be made. 
This individual has hundreds of matches at 12-markers, but only a few near matches at 25 or 37 markers (none in surname STRAUB).  At 67 markers, he has no matches with anyone.
The null439 condition is sufficiently distinct to warrant its own project, and your admin recommends joining the null439 DNA Project.  The null439 project web site is an excellent source of information on what a null439 is and what it means.  The null439 project has identified two major clusters of haplotypes, with DYS459b=9 (yellow table cell) being the major difference distinguishing Cluster 1 from Cluster 2.  The null439 mutation is found thinly in western Europe, but is concentrated in the British Isles; Cluster 1 is concentrated in England and, most notably for our purposes, is also found in southern Germany.  The late Leo Little, former administrator of the null439 project, told me (in Apr 2007) the three German null439's are surnamed BETTINGER, BLY, and STINER, and are from the region of the Rhine River Valley and Wuerttemberg.
Assuming a modal value of 12 for DYS439, our subject's haplotype becomes quite common, with many near matches, which is not surprising considering its resemblance to the modal R1b haplotype.  It's the S26+ SNP mutation that makes this group uncommon.  Your project admin recommends taking an S26+ test to confirm the presence of this mutation.
   

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 Deme 15
Deme 16
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The Genetic Distance is from the family modals, not the R-P312 modals.
Genetic Distance
(per panel)		 Surname Kit#   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
12 25 37 67 111 3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
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3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
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S1
3
9
5		 b
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S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                         
0 0 0 0   STRAUB 329021   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30   18 9 10 11 11 26 15 20 29 15 15 17 19   11 12 19 24 16 15 18 17 37 39 12 12   12 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 22 16 10 12 12 15 8 11 22 20 13 12 11 12 11 11 12 12                                                                                             Pvt6, Pvt5, Carter Richard4, Alexander John S.3, John2, Christian1 STRAUB (1820-1883) — Decheldorf, Erlangen-Höchstadt, Bavaria > NYC
0         STRAUB 472442   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Pvt5,
0 2 0 0   ROBINSON 140700   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30   18 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 19   11 12 19 24 16 15 18 17 37 39 12 12 12 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 22 16 10 12 12 15 8 11 22 20 13 12 11 12 11 11 12 12                                                                                             Pvt...
1 2 0     ROBINSON 237696   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 30   18 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 19   11 12 19 24 16 15 18 17 37 39 12 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt...
Our subject has over 1700 matches at 12 markers, but they drop off to a handful at 25 or more markers (all in other surnames).  He has a 34/37 match with ROBINSON #237696 and a 65/67 match with ROBINSON #140700, which raise the specter of an NPE.  However, this is Hg R-M269, by far the most common haplogroup in western Europe, so it's possible to get a high level match at 67 markers that falls away at 111 markers.
I would recommend our subject upgrade to 111 markers, though unless the ROBINSONs also upgrade, it won't help.  Unfortunately, the ROBINSON who tested 67 markers has privatized his results, so we cannot contact him; however, we can contact the ROBINSON who tested 37 markers, and perhaps he will be willing to upgrade.
Checking both the ROBINSON Project and the ROBERTSON Project results tables, there seems to be some relationship between the surnames, and there are many very similar haplotypes in both projects (and individuals who belong to both).  I submit that unless all of these individuals with similar haplotypes upgrade to 111 markers, their true relationships won't be correctly determined.
Another highly useful tool in this regard would be deep SNP testing, for example, with the BigY test.  For common surnames in Haplogroup R1b, the BigY may be the only way individuals lacking paper connections eventually get connected accurately.
Family Finder testing might also be helpful.  It is most sensitive back about five generations, but can pick up connections six or seven generations back.  If these individuals are getting FF matches, we know the common ancestor is near; if not, we know the connection on their patrilineal line is more distant.
           

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Deme 17
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UserID		 FF B
i
g
Y		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values XQJ7H       13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                             
STROUP 344764         13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 31   18 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 16 17   11 10 19 22 15 15 17 17 36 37 12 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt4, Pvt3, Andrew Lafayette2, Jacob Decatur1 STROUP (1828-1900s) — SC > AL > Hancock Co., IL
BAKER 122286         13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 31   18 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 16 17   11 10 19 22 15 15 17 17 36 38 12 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt5, Warren George4, Willis Kirby3, W.W.2, Isaac1 BAKER (1809-1870) — London, England, to Warren Co., PA
ADKIN 240274         13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 31   18 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 16 17   11 10 19 22 15 15 17 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 17 8 11 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 11                                                                                             Pvt… John1 ADKIN (1791- ) — England
Like other R1b's, our subject has hundreds of 12-marker matches, but these fall off at 25 markers, and at 37 markers, he has just two matches:  a 36/37 match with a BAKER and a 35/37 match with an ADKIN.  The ADKIN has tested 67 markers, so I recommend our subject and the BAKER upgrade to 67 markers to see if the ADKIN match holds up. 
It should also be helpful for all three to be Family Finder tested.  Their common ancestor may be  near enough to be within the test's range of sensitivity (about 5 to 7 generations).  In fact, if they are FF matching, that will tell us the common ancestor is near; if not, that tells us the common ancestor is distant.
Paper genealogy shows Jacob Decatur STROUP to be a son of Jacob STROUP II, who is a paper grandson of Jacob STROUP I.  However, based on his tested descendants, Jacob I is Haplogroup I1-L592, while based on his tested descendants, Jacob II is Haplogroup J2-L24, meaning there is an NPE in Jacob II.  With the above results for Jacob Decatur's descendant, it appears he or one of the males on his patrilineal line to Jacob II, is the second NPE in this line.  So, the question now becomes:  Where, in the line between Jacob Decatur and our test subject did the NPE occur?  To answer this question, we need other descendants of Jacob Decatur, through his three other sons, to be Y-DNA tested.
         
There are two John ADKINs born 1791 in England to be found in online pedigrees:  one was born in Cambridgeshire, England, and married Frances; the other was born in Leicestershire, England, and married Mary.  I have been unable to reach the test subject for this kit (his email address is bouncing), so we don't know which, if either, of these John ADKINs is his earliest ancestor.
Update:  I've received new contact information.  Awaiting response.

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Deme 18
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UserID		 FF B
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Y		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values XQJ7H       13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                             
STRAUB 361985         13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Pvt6, Pvt5, John Henry4, Joseph L3, Joseph2, Michael1 STRAUB (c1780s- ) — of Bühlerzell, Württemberg
Because our subject has a common haplotype, he's showing up with over a thousand 12/12 matches in the FTDNA database.  Despite those many matches, he has none with anyone surnamed STRAUB/STROUP/etc.  I recommend upgrading to more markers.  It's possible to be an 11/12 match with someone that isn't showing up, now, but will show up at 37 or more markers, for example, the individual in Deme 3 above.
           

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Deme 19
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Surname Kit#
FF		 B
I
G
|
Y		 Most
Down-
stream
Positive
SNP
Actually
Tested		 Ysearch
UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R1b-U106 Modal Values   13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 17 17 37 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 20 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11   modals per DGM
                                               
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What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them — I'll let you know when you shouldn't!
For 12 markers: 9 or less is a non-relative; for 10-12 markers, please see this table compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers: 21 or less is a non-relative; for 22-25 markers,
For 37 markers: 31 or less is a non-relative; for 32-37 markers,
For 67 markers: 59 or less is a non-relative; for 60-67 markers,
For 111 markers: 100 or less is a non-relative; for 101-111 markers,
For any test:  0 matching markers, please contact NASA.

 
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