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Lineages and Results of Y-DNA Testing for STRAUB and Variations
Haplogroup R1b-M222 the STROUP-DOUGHERTY NPE
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Haplogroup R1b-M222

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The GD (genetic distance) is the distance from the STROUP.
GD Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID
Haplotype as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Panel 1 Markers 1-12 Panel 2 Markers 13-25 Panel 3 Markers 26-37 Panel 4 Markers 38-67 Panel 5 Markers 68-111
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 MP10 MP11 MP12 MP13
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6 NW Irish Modals M5UKQ 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 17 16 18 17 38 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 25 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12                                     11 30 12 13 24 13 10                       23           12   modals per David Wilson
3 DOHERTY Modals   13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 16 16 17 12 11 19 22 17 16 18 17 38 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 25 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12                                                                                         DOHERTY R1b Group #1 as of 8 Apr 2010 (n=75 at 12, 68 at 25, 64 at 37, 35 at 67) 
                               
2 DOUGHERTY 75301   13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 16 16 14 12 11 19 22 17 16 18 17 38 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8  9 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 25 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12                                                                                         Pvt
1 BROWN 77320   13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 16 16 14 12 11 19 22 17 16 18 17 38 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 25 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12                                                                                         Pvt... Daniel1
? DOHERTY N22304   13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 16 16 14                                                                                                                                                                             Pvt
0 STROUP 24073 4MXVZ 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 16 16 14 12 11 19 22 17 16 18 17 38 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 25 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 33 15 9 16 12 24 26 19 12 11 12 12 11 9 13 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 14 10 10 21 15 19 12 24 17 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 18 9 12 11 Pvt6, John Franklin5, George V.4, Samuel Patton3, Peter2, John Peter1 of Wythe Co., VA
STROUP #24073 has a paper descent from John Peter STROUP of Wythe Co., VA, but like one other member in the project with a paper descent from John Peter, he has an NPE in his patrilineal line.  I have constructed a "Node Chart for John Peter STROUP" that should aid us in determining where the NPEs in their patrilineal lines occurred. 
For the individuals in the bottom four rows of the table, I have reordered the DYS464 alleles to reduce their genetic difference from the NW Irish Modal.  I discuss the reason for doing so in more detail below.
The STROUP and his near matches have a common haplotype, one that resembles the modal haplotype of the kin-group of 5th-Century Irish warlord, Niall of the Nine Hostages.

As of January, 2011, our STROUP has over 900 full matches at 12 markers, over 500 near matches at 25 markers, over 100 near matches at 37 markers, and over 130 near matches even at 67 markers all in other, mostly Irish, surnames.  He has one full match at 25 markers, with a DOHERTY (#N22304), but no full matches at any higher level.  His strongest match is 66/67 with an individual BROWN (#77320), plus he has a 64/67 match with the DOHERTY Group #1 modal haplotype, making for a strong case that he is, indeed, a DOHERTY.  The BROWN does not match any other BROWNs, despite the size of the BROWN Surname Project, which suggests that he, too, has an NPE and is really a DOUGHERTY.

DYS464 is a multi-copy marker with from three to seven copies, but usually four (it's four 98.5% of the time).  Testing does not reveal the actual order of the alleles, but, by convention, they are reported low to high.  DYS464 is the most volatile of all markers and is prone to multi-step changes in a single mutation event, so a strict numerical count of the differences between haplotypes may produce a GD (genetic distance) that is too high, either by overlooking multi-step mutations and/or by the mis-match in their order.  If we do not reorder the alleles, we come up with this comparison:
NW Irish Modal 15 16 16 17
#24073 STROUP 14 15 16 16
The GD between the STROUP and the NW Irish Modal at DYS464 is three, if one assumes that these are three single-step mutations.  Another possibility is:
NW Irish Modal 15 16 16 17
#24073 STROUP 14 16 16 15
which could arise from one single-step mutation and one two-step mutation, for a GD of two.

The more closely related people are, that is, the tighter their match on all other markers, the more likely it is that any difference of two or three in one allele at DYS464 is the result of one multi-step mutation, rather than multiple single-step mutations.  For that reason, in the next table (and the full table above), I have used the ordering of the alleles that produces the least genetic distance between the STROUP and NW Irish modal:

NW Irish Modal 15 16 16 17
#24073 STROUP 15 16 16 14
If we assume the mutation at DYS464d is the result of one three-step mutation, then his GD at this marker is only one.  I have likewise re-ordered the DOUGHERTY and DOHERTY results.
Our subject has undergone deep SNP testing at FTDNA, with these results:
M207+ M173+ M343+ P25+ M18- M73- M269+ M222+ M37- M65- M126- M153- M160- SRY2627- P66-
The positive test for M222+ proves our subject is Haplogroup R-1b1a-2a1a-1b4b, the so-called "Northwest Irish" subclade.
     

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What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them I'll let you know when you shouldn't!
For 12 markers: 9 or less is a non-relative; for 10-12 markers, please see this table compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers: 21 or less is a non-relative; for 22-25 markers,
For 37 markers: 31 or less is a non-relative; for 32-37 markers,
For 67 markers: 59 or less is a non-relative; for 60-67 markers,
For 111 markers: 100 or less is a non-relative; for 101-111 markers,
For any test:  0 matching markers, please contact NASA.


 
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