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The GD (genetic distance)
is the distance from the STROUP.
| GD |
Surname |
Kit
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Ysearch
User ID |
Haplotype — as determined
by STR testing |
Known
Lineage |
| Panel 1 — Markers 1-12 |
Panel 2 — Markers 13-25 |
Panel 3 — Markers 26-37 |
Panel 4 — Markers 38-67 |
Panel 5 — Markers 68-111 |
| STR |
PP3 |
PP5 |
MP6 |
MP7 |
MP8 |
MP9 |
MP10 |
MP11 |
MP12 |
MP13 |
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3 |
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9
0 |
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4 |
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9
1 |
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5 |
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5 |
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6 |
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8 |
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9 |
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9 |
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ii
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9 |
4
5
8 |
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4
5
9 |
b
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4
5
9 |
4
5
5 |
4
5
4 |
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7 |
4
3
7 |
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8 |
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4
9 |
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6
4 |
b
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6
4 |
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6
4 |
d
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4 |
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6
0 |
H4
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G
A
T
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IIa
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Y
C
A |
IIb
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C
A |
4
5
6 |
6
0
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6 |
5
7
0 |
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D
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b
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D
Y |
4
4
2 |
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8 |
5
3
1 |
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7
8 |
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S1
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9
5 |
b
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S1
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9
5 |
5
9
0 |
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3
7 |
6
4
1 |
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7
2 |
S1
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0 |
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5 |
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3 |
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3 |
5
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7 |
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9
4 |
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6 |
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4 |
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6 |
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8 |
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7 |
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9
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5 |
7
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5 |
6
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2 |
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9
5 |
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4 |
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6 |
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7 |
5
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5 |
5
5
6 |
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4
9 |
5
8
9 |
5
2
2 |
4
9
4 |
5
3
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6
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6 |
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7
5 |
6
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8 |
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6
2 |
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5
2 |
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5 |
A10
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G
A
T
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4
6
3 |
4
4
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1B
07
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GG
AA
T |
5
2
5 |
7
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2 |
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9
3 |
6
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4 |
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6
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6 |
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5 |
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7 |
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9
7 |
5
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4 |
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6
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5 |
| 6 |
NW Irish Modals |
M5UKQ |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
17 |
16 |
18 |
17 |
38 |
39 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
9 |
15 |
16 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
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10 |
10 |
12 |
21 |
23 |
16 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
16 |
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12 |
25 |
20 |
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modals per David Wilson |
| 3 |
DOHERTY Modals |
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13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
18 |
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10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
18 |
30 |
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16 |
17 |
12 |
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19 |
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17 |
38 |
39 |
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11 |
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10 |
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12 |
21 |
23 |
16 |
10 |
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16 |
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12 |
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20 |
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DOHERTY R1b Group #1 as of 8 Apr
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DOUGHERTY |
75301 |
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13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
18 |
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| 1 |
BROWN |
77320 |
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25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
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14 |
29 |
18 |
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Pvt... Daniel1 |
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DOHERTY |
N22304 |
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14 |
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17 |
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Pvt |
| 0 |
STROUP |
24073 |
4MXVZ |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
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14 |
29 |
17 |
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25 |
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30 |
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11 |
19 |
22 |
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12 |
22 |
23 |
16 |
10 |
12 |
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16 |
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12 |
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20 |
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15 |
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16 |
12 |
24 |
26 |
19 |
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14 |
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Pvt6, John
Franklin5, George
V.4, Samuel
Patton3, Peter2,
John
Peter1 — of Wythe Co., VA |
| STROUP #24073 has a paper descent from John Peter STROUP of Wythe Co.,
VA, but like
one other member in the project with a paper descent from John Peter,
he has an NPE
in his patrilineal line. I have constructed a "Node
Chart for John Peter STROUP" that should aid us in determining where
the NPEs in their patrilineal lines occurred. |
| For the individuals in the bottom four rows of the table, I have reordered
the DYS464 alleles to reduce their genetic difference from the NW Irish
Modal. I discuss the reason for doing so in more detail below. |
| The STROUP and his near matches have a common haplotype, one that resembles
the modal haplotype of the kin-group of 5th-Century Irish warlord, Niall
of the Nine Hostages.
As of January, 2011, our STROUP has over 900 full matches at 12 markers,
over 500 near matches at 25 markers, over 100 near matches at 37 markers,
and over 130 near matches even at 67 markers — all in other, mostly Irish,
surnames. He has one full match at 25 markers, with a DOHERTY (#N22304),
but no full matches at any higher level. His strongest match is 66/67
with an individual BROWN (#77320), plus he has a 64/67 match with the DOHERTY
Group #1 modal haplotype, making for a strong case that he is, indeed,
a DOHERTY. The BROWN does not match any other BROWNs, despite the
size of the BROWN Surname Project, which suggests that he, too, has an
NPE and is really a DOUGHERTY. |
DYS464 is a multi-copy marker with from three to
seven copies, but usually four (it's four 98.5% of the time). Testing
does not reveal the actual order of the alleles, but, by convention, they
are reported low to high. DYS464 is the most volatile of all markers
and is prone to multi-step changes in a single mutation event, so a strict
numerical count of the differences between haplotypes may produce a GD
(genetic distance) that is too high, either by overlooking multi-step mutations
and/or by the mis-match in their order. If we do not reorder the
alleles, we come up with this comparison:
| NW Irish Modal |
15 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
| #24073 STROUP |
14 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
The GD between the STROUP and the NW Irish Modal at DYS464 is three, if
one assumes that these are three single-step mutations. Another possibility
is:
| NW Irish Modal |
15 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
| #24073 STROUP |
14 |
16 |
16 |
15 |
which could arise from one single-step mutation and one two-step mutation,
for a GD of two.
The more closely related people are, that is, the tighter their match
on all other markers, the more likely it is that any difference
of two or three in one allele at DYS464 is the result of one multi-step
mutation, rather than multiple single-step mutations. For that reason,
in the next table (and the full table above), I have used the ordering
of the alleles that produces the least genetic distance between
the STROUP and NW Irish modal:
| NW Irish Modal |
15 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
| #24073 STROUP |
15 |
16 |
16 |
14 |
If we assume the mutation at DYS464d is the result of one three-step mutation,
then his GD at this marker is only one. I have likewise re-ordered
the DOUGHERTY and DOHERTY results. |
Our subject has undergone deep SNP testing at FTDNA, with these results:
| M207+ M173+ M343+ P25+ |
M18- M73- |
M269+ |
M222+ |
M37- M65- M126- M153- M160- SRY2627- P66- |
The positive test for M222+ proves our subject is Haplogroup R-1b1a-2a1a-1b4b,
the so-called "Northwest Irish" subclade. |
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