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Lineages and Results of Y-DNA Testing for STRAUB, TRAUB, STRAUBE, STROOP, STRUB,
and Variations, especially STROUP, STROUPE, TROUP, TROUPE, etc.
Haplogroup I1
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Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
(number tested at FTDNA + number tested elsewhere / number of different progenitors)
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E (1 / 1)  I1  (4 / 3) I1-L592 (31 / 1)  I2  (14 / 6) J2 (5 / 2) R1a (2 / 1) R1b (25 / 19) T (1 / 1)

Haplogroup I is the second most common haplogroup in western Europe, next to R1b.  Overall, Haplogroup I has a broad European distribution, from Scandinavia and the British Isles east to the Ural Mountains of Russia and south to Anatolia and the Mediterranean Sea, but Haplogroup I1 is highly concentrated in northern Germany, Denmark, and southern Norway and Sweden, which has led it to being nicknamed, the "Viking" haplogroup (though some consider R1a to be the only true Viking haplogroup).

The most common subclade of I is I1.  Subclades of I1 are rare to the point of not being genealogically useful, but few other SNPs subdivide the otherwise large I1 group.

In lieu of useful SNPs (the search for which is ongoing), varieties of I1 have been defined by Nordtvedt based on STR haplotypes.  Key markers do unify the subclade.  Among European haplotypes, DYS455=8 is virtually exclusive to I1; and YCAIIa,b=19,21 is universal, though not exclusive, to it.  DYS511 has proven to be a useful marker for separating AngloSaxon and Norse/ultraNorse varieties of I1, it's value being 9 for the former and 10 for the latter.  DYS462 is also useful for separating AS vs. N/uN, being 12 in the former and 13 in the latter, though this marker is not part of FTDNA's standard 67-marker set, so has to be orderd "a la carte" as an Advanced marker at FTDNA or elsewhere.

So far, our 27 Haplogroup I1 project members fall into two subclades and four varieties, each apparently representing descendants of a single progenitor.  Because the I1-AngloSaxon-5 group became so large, it's link will take you to it's own separate page.

I1 = I-M253 = I-P30 I1d = I-L22
I1-AngloSaxon-5
(n = 25)
I1-AngloSaxon-gen-2
(n = 1)
I1-AngloSaxon-9a
(n = 1)
I1d-NorseDanish
(n = 2)
Ken Nordtvedt is the guru researching Hg I subclades (see his Excel spreadsheet [link died]).  For a table showing modal haplotypes for Hg I varieties in FamilyTreeDNA marker order, please also see my HTML transcription of Nordtvedt's spreadsheet.  If you would like to understand more about these varieties, I recommend joining the RootsWeb Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I mailing list.
Y-DNA Haplogroup I1 SNPs and Subclades
Mutations Haplogroup
ISOGG FTDNA
M170=PF3715 P19_1-5 L41=PF3787 M258 P212 P38 PS76 U179 I I
____ M253 L64 L75 L80 L81 L118 L121=S62 L123 L124=S64 L125=S65 L157.1 L186 L187 L840
M307.2=P203.2 M450=S109 P30 P40 S63 S66 S107 S108 S110 S111
I1 I1
____ DF29=S438 I1-a  
____ Z2336=CTS6364 I1-a1  
____ M227 I1-a1a I1b 
____ M72 I1-a1a1 I1b1
L22=S142 I1-a1b I1d
____ P109 I1-a1b1 I1d1
L205 I1-a1b2 I1d2
L287 I1-a1b3 I1d3
____ L258=S335 I1-a1b3-a I1d3a
____ L296 I1-a1b3-a1  
L300=S241 I1-a1b4 I1d4
L813=Z719 I1-a1b5  
L211 [private] - I1e
Z58=S244 I1-a2   
____ Z59=S246 I1-a2a  
____ Z60=S337 Z61=S439 Z62 I1-a2a1  
____ Z140 Z141 I1-a2a1-a  
____ Z2535 I1-a2a1-a1  
____ L338 I1-a2a1-a1a  
Z2538=CTS10937 I1-a2a1-a1b  
F2642 I1-a2a1-a2  
____ L592 [private: STRAUB family]     
Z73 I1-a2a1-b  
L573 I1-a2a1-c  
L1248 I1-a2a1-d  
____ L803 I1-a2a1-d1  
Z382 I1-a2a2  
S296=Z138 Z139 I1-a2b  
____ Z2541 I1-a2b1  
Z63=S243 I1-a3  
____ L1237 I1-a3a  
Z131 I1-b  
P215 I2 I2

To view more of the page without scrolling, temporarily reduce the text size or page size in your browser.  Red labels indicate markers that typically mutate more frequently than those labeled in black.  (Empty cells that are darkened indicate tests not ordered.)  Keywords for search engines: genetic genealogy.

I1-AngloSaxon = I-M253
I1-AngloSaxon is the most common form of I1.  It is most frequent in the Netherlands, northwestern Germany, and Denmark and is present at lower frequencies in eastern and southern Germany, southern Sweden, and the British Isles.  The most common form of I1-AS is AS1.
 
I1-AngloSaxon-gen-2
To view the subject's lineage, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID
Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
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Modals values for I1-AS-gen-2 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 14 15 15 10 10 19 21 14 14         12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 16 8 13 25 20 13 13 11 12 11 11 12 11 as per Nordvedt
               
STRAUB 59157 XXD9N 14 22 14 10 13 13 11 14 12 12 11 28 16 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 26 12 14 15 15 11 11 19 21 14 14 16 19 34 39 12 10                                                             Pvt2, Pvt1 — of Dauphin Co., PA
#59157 has a rare haplotype.  As of April 2011, he has only a handful of 12/12 matches in the FTDNA database, and not even near matches above 12 markers.  At Ysearch, he has no full or near matches, even at 12 markers.  He does have some low-level matches at SMGF with surname FRIESEN, but these could fall apart at higher levels.  We need to look at such matches because this individual's father was adopted, and his biological surname is unknown.
Based on Jim Cullen's Haplogroup I Subclade Predictor, and listing only the most probably varieties, this individual is:
I-M253-ASgen =>33%  I-M253-AS1H =>22%  I-M253-AS5 =>22%
Of the two ASgen varieties in Nordtvedt's table, he more closely resembles AS-gen-2.
   

I1-AngloSaxon-9a
To view the subject's lineage, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit # YSearch
User ID
Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-1032 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
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6
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I1-M253-AS9a Modal Values 13 22 15 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 28 16 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 29 12 14 15 15 10 10 19 21 14 14         11 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8  9 9 12 22 24 15 10 12 12 16 8 13 25 20 13 13 11 12 11 11 12 11 as per Nordtvedt
               
TROUP 146724   13 22 15 10 14 15 11 14 11 12 11 28 16 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 14 14 15 10 10 19 21 14 14 16 21 35 37 12 11                                                             Pvt5, Pvt4, Robert William3, Daniel2, Jacob1 TROUP of Armstrong Co., PA
This individual has a handful of low-level matches in the FTDNA database, but none in surname TROUP (or variation).  For now, his haplotype remains unique.
Based on Jim Cullen's Haplogroup I Subclade Predictor, and listing only the most probably varieties, this individual is:  I-M253-AS9a =>26%  I-L22-uN2 =>16%  I-L22-NuN-14 =>13%  I-L22-uN1 =>13% 
Update:  this individual has been given a gratis backbone SNP test by FTDNA, with the result that he is M253+.  Further update:  he has tested L592 and was negative.
   

I1d = I-L22-Norse-Danish
I1d is the most common I1 subclade in Sweden and Finland and is the second most common subclade in Norway and Denmark.  The ND variety is more common in Denmark.
To view the subjects' lineages, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID
Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
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3
9
0

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Modals Values for I1d-L22-ND 13 23 14 10 14 14 11 14 12 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 20 28 12 14 15 16 10 10 19 21 14 14         12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 10 12 23 25 15 10 12 12 16 8 13 25 19 13 13 11 12 11 11 12 11 as per Nordtvedt
           
STRAUB 24343 J7NGZ 13 23 14 10 14 14 11 14 12 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 21 29 12 14 15 13 11 10 19 21 14 14 17 20 36 36 11 10                                                             Pvt4, William Augustus3, Jonathan Francis2, Jonathan Francis STRAUB / STROUP1 — of Chapman Twp., Snyder Co., PA
TROUPE N47644 NQBM8 13 23 14 10 14 14 11 14 12 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 23 16 21 29 12 14 15 13 11 10 19 21 14 14 17 20 36 36 11 10                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, Stanley Quay5, Lewis Allen4, Peter3, Peter2, John Peter TRAUB / TROUP1 — of Perry Twp., Union [now Snyder] Co., PA
The initial surprise here was that #24343 did not match the other purported descendant of John STRAUB, Sr., of Beaver Twp., Union [now Snyder] Co., PA (see Haplogroup I1-AS5, #75122).  As #75122 has a stronger paper connection to John Sr. (through John Jr.), it appears this individual (#24343) is the one with the bad connection, so I show his earlist known ancestor here as Jonathan Francis STRAUB/STROUP (not as the Jonathan who was son of John Sr.).
The second surprise is the 37/37 match with #N47644, a TROUPE with an origin also in Union [now Snyder] Co., PA.  The match may prove what some have asserted, that there have been conversions between STRAUB/STROUP/STROUPE and TRAUB/TROUP/TROUPE; or, an alternative I believe is more likely, that we are looking at an NPE in one of their patrilineal lines.  In other words, the two paper genealogies may be correct, so what we're looking at is an NPE, not a conversion between TRAUB and STRAUB.
They have a modestly common haplotype with a few dozen low level matches in other surnames, but no close or full 37-marker match with anyone else, except each other. 
Based on Jim Cullen's Haplogroup I Subclade Predictor, and listing only the most probably varieties, this individual is:  I-M253-ND =>53%  I-L22-Bothnia =>12%  I-M253-AS4 =>9%
The M253 is an error (fide Nordtvedt); the ND variety is actually L22.
#24343 has been deep SNP tested with these results:
M170+ P19+ M253+ L22+ M227- P109-
The positive SNP test results prove he is Haplogroup I1d (see table above); the negative result for M227 redundantly proves he is not I1b; and the negative result for P109 proves he is not I1d1. 
   

What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them — I'll let you know when you shouldn't!
For 12 markers: 9 or less is a non-relative; for 10-12 markers, please see this table compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers: 21 or less is a non-relative; for 22-25 markers,
For 37 markers: 31 or less is a non-relative; for 32-37 markers,
For 67 markers: 59 or less is a non-relative; for 60-67 markers,
For 111 markers: 100 or less is a non-relative; for 101-111 markers,
For any test:  0 matching markers, please contact NASA.

 
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