Discussion:
| The patrilineal descendants of Jacob
STROUP II (1771-1846) match each other perfectly. They do
not, however, remotely match the Haplogroup I1 descendants of Jacob
STROUP I (1722-1804/5) of Lincoln [now Gaston] Co., NC, alleged
grandfather of Jacob II. As it stands, the descendants of Jacob
II do not match any other STROUPs so far tested for the project, so
Jacob II's father remains unknown. They do have a DNA match
with a BIDDLE family, which suggests Jacob II was the one with the
NPE. |
| On paper, Jacob STRAUB II is the eldest son of Adam
& Catherine (ALEXANDER) STRAUB. The most likely explanation
for Jacob II not being a DNA match with his alleged father is that
he was Catherine's child from a prior marriage. Unfortunately,
the lack of early NC marriage records makes solving this mystery difficult. |
| Given their genetic distance from the modal haplotype at 37 markers
(GD=14), it's not suprising that this haplotype is rare. Other than
their matches with each other, in the FTDNA database they have just three
12/12 matches, all outside the project (in surnames HARRIS, LEVY, and BIDDLE).
#33766 and #101265 continue to have a 25/25 match with the BIDDLE, and
#33766 has a 35/37 match with the BIDDLE, while the matches with the other
surnames fall away. As of 24 Mar 2011, there is just one BIDDLE in
the SMGF database and one in the Ysearch database, neither of whom is remotely
a match. Tinkering with the databases at Ysearch and SMFG, it appears
that DYS385b=18 is the major sticking point in preventing matches.
According to SMGF,
less
than one percent of people tested are 13/18 at DYS385a/b. |
| This STROUP-BIDDLE match is looking like an NPE. There had been
no BIDDLE project at FTDNA, so I requested one, and now the BIDDLE
Surname Project is open (15 Nov 2007). I have repeatedly contacted
the matching BIDDLE, but unfortunately have not had a reply. Given
that the "Y-DNA Matches" tab for #33766 shows the BIDDLE has a 12/12, 25/25,
35/37 match with our STROUPs, we can at least fill in the BIDDLE's first
25 markers. So far, no one tested for the BIDDLE project matches
out STROUPs or this BIDDLE. |
| UPDATE (30 Aug 2016): a member of the BIDDLE Project (#494474)
has matched our STROUPs at the level of 65/67, so the connection is good. |
| FTDNA has run a complimentary (free) backbone SNP test for #101308,
with a result of M172+. Your project admin recommends at least one
of you (preferably the one who has tested the most markers, viz.,
#101265) undergo deep SNP testing to determine your most downstream SNP
and J subclade. Two of these individuals have joined the Haplogroup
J project. Based on their haplotypes, the project has placed them
in the J-2a4h (L24+) subclade. The values of 9 at DYS450 and
10 at DYS445 are correlated with being in that subclade. |
| Because of the rarity of this haplotype, your project admin recommends
uploading your results to Ysearch, as an aid to J2 researchers — and to
make life easier for your project admin. If you don't upload your
data to Ysearch, I have to manually enter your data each time I
want to do a search for matches for you. |
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