John Peter STROUP & Maria Magdalena WENRICH

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John Peter STROUP
Maria Magdalena WENRICH

NOTICE: three paper descendants of our subject are participating in the STRAUB Y-chromosome DNA Surname Project. These three do not match each other, and the results indicate that one of them is a descendant of Johann Pieter STRAUB, the 1733 immigrant to Philadelphia, while each of the other two has an NPE in his patrilineal line. Of these, one has a characteristically Irish haplotype and is matching surname DOUGHERTY, while the other has a high-level match with a German NEUHAUS / NEWHOUSE family, one of whom owned land in Wythe County adjacent to our subject. Please see this node chart to see where we stand in the testing of this family.

Husband: John Peter STRAUB / STRAUP / STROUP / STROUPE
Birth: 18 Apr 1760, Lynn Twp., Northampton [now Lehigh] Co., PA
Baptism (by Daniel Schumacher): 23 Apr 1760
Death: 30 Jun 1857, Wythe Co., VA
Y-DNA Haplogroup: I1-L592

Marriage: 5 Mar 1788, Montgomery Co., VA

Wife: Maria Magdalena / Mary Magdalene "Molly" WYNRICH / WYNRICK / WENRICH / VENRICK / WENNERICH / VENERICK / WINNERICK
Birth: 1765-70, PA
Death: aft. 1850 census
Father: Michael WYNRICH/ WENRICH
Mother: Elizabeth MICHAEL

Children — born in Wythe Co., VA:

1. Barbara STROUP, b. 1788-90
2. Peter STROUP, b. 1793/4
3. John STROUP, b. 1794/5
4. Mary Ann STROUP, b. 1796/7
5. (Daughter A) STROUP, b. 1794-1800 — is she Mary Magdalene STROUP?
6. Jacob STROUP, b. 1794-1800
7. Elizabeth STROUP, b. ca. 1800
8. George STROUP, b. 1800
9. Margaret "Peggy" STROUP, b. 1806-10
10. Susannah / Susan STROUP, b. 1809/10

• Barbara appears to have inflated her age as she became elderly, and a claim in her bio of being 106 years old at death cannot possibly be true, at least not unless John had a prior wife because, if she were that old, she would have been born before our subjects married in 1788.
• Jacob's age varied wildly in the later censuses (and, no, there's no doubt these are his records), but early censuses indicate the span shown. His wife's birthyear (1800) and his marriage date (1819) both suggest a birth year for Jacob ca. 1796 because, on average, a man is four years older than his wife and marries first at the age of 23, and such a birthyear fits in the span suggested by early censuses.

Other Kin:

. Mary STROUP, b. 1832/3, VA

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Sources (n.b., Washington Co., VA, was formed from Fincastle Co. in 1776/77; Wythe Co., VA, was formed from Montgomery Co. in 1789/90):

1. Jordan R. Dodd, ed. 1993. KY, NC, TN, VA, WV Marriages: Early to 1850. Liahona Research, Orem, UT (Broderbund CD-229):

Strope, Peter Venerick, Magdalin 5 Mar 1788 Montgomery Co., VA

2. 1790 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): not found, but the 1790 Virginia census was destroyed.

3. 1800 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): not found, but the 1800 Virginia census was destroyed.

3. 1810 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #40 of 46; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1810 VA Wythe Co. Roll 71 p. 857 Ln. 11 John P Stroup 13001-32110-00

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 9 or under 1800-1810 = George (b. 1800)

3 males 10-15 1794-1800 = Jacob
= John (b. 1794/5)
= Peter (b. 1793/4)

1 male 45 or over in or bef. 1765 = John Peter (b. 1860)

3 females 9 or under 1800-1810 = Susan (b. 1809/10)
= Margaret (b. 1806-10)
= Elizabeth (b. ca. 1800)

2 females 10-15 1794-1800 = Mary Ann (b. 1796/7)
= Daughter A

1 female 16-25 1784-1794 = Barbara (b. 1788-90)

1 female 26-44 1765-1784 = Molly

4. 1820 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find.

5a. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find Peter.

5b. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #89 of 100 — indexed "Shamp"; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1830 VA Wythe Co. Roll M19_200 pp. 355B-356A Ln. 14 Molly Straup 110 - 000 010 010 no slaves

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 4 or under 1825-1830 = grandson?

1 male 5-9 1820-1825 = grandson?

1 female 20-29 1800-1810 = Susan?

1 female 50-59 1770-1780 = Molly

Molly appears to be fibbing about her age.

6a. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #9 of 84; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 VA Wythe Co. Roll 579 pp. 80B-81A Ln. 21 George Stroup 200 000 100 100 - 011 100 110 no slaves 0100000

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

2 males 4 or under 1835-1840 = Solomon (b. 1836/7)
= John (b. 1835)

1 male 40-49 1790-1800 = George (b. 1800)

1 male 70-79 1760-1770 = Peter (b. 1760)

1 female 5-9 1830-1835 = Daughter B

1 female 10-14 1825-1830 = Saphronia (b. 1827/8)

1 female 15-19 1820-1825 = Daughter A

1 female 40-49 1790-1800 = Elizabeth

1 female 50-59 1780-1790 = ?

1 person employed in agriculture

Peter appears to be living with his son, George. Listed five lines above George's brother, Jacob STROUP.

6b. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #71-72 of 84; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 VA Wythe Co. Roll 579 pp. 111B-112A Ln. 23 Molly Stroup 000 - 000 000 000 100 0000000 no slaves

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 female 70-79 1760-1770 = Molly (b. 1765-70)

1 person employed in agriculture

7a. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #41 of 235): Poor House, 68th District, Wythe Co., VA, Roll M432_982, p. 244A, 285/285, enumerated 24 Jul 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Peter Stroupe 80 M None Virginia Pauper

One of many residents in said institution. In a group home such as this, you can't depend too much on the age and birthplace being accurate.

7b. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #192 of 235): Sixty-Eighth Dist., Wythe Co., VA, Roll M432_982, p. 319B, 1323/1323, enumerated 20 Sep 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Mary Stroupe 95 F Pennsylvania

Mary " 17 F Va

The elder Mary does appear to be our subject's wife, although her age is inflated. I don't know who the younger Mary is. Listed next to daughter, Margaret STROUPE, who is next to son, George STROUPE.

7c. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #111 of 235 — indexed "Stroufer"): Sixty Eighth District, Wythe Co., VA, Roll M432_982, p. 279A, 767/767, enumerated 12 Aug 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Susan Stroupe 40 F Virginia

8. Mary B. Kegley. 1995. Early Adventurers on the Western Waters, Vol. 3: The New River of Virginia in Pioneer Days, 1745-1805. Kegley Books, Wytheville, VA (excerpt courtesy of Glenn Stroup):

p. 118 Survey Book 1, Wythe County, 1791-1800
pp. 160-162
January 22, 1795... including the following prior claims: 200 acres for Isaac Newhouse, 200 acres for ___ Stroupe on head of Cripple Creek...

p. 119 p. 183
May 16, 1795, Isaac Newhouse, 200 acres on an entry based on a Treasury Warrant, 1783, assigned by James Newell, headwaters of Criple Creek, adjoining Stroup.

This STROUP/STROUPE has to be our subject, as the only STROUP known in the county old enough to own land in 1795. What's very interesting is that his land is adjacent to Isaac NEWHOUSE, the NEWHOUSE family with whom one of John Peter's descendants has a DNA match.

9. Messages in the Stroup Family Genealogy Forum (online at GenForum.com).

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