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| Surname |
Kit
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Ysearch
User ID |
SNP
Tests |
Haplotype
— as determined by STR testing |
Known
Lineage |
| Markers 1-12 |
Markers 13-25 |
Markers 26-37 |
Markers 38-67 |
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9
3 |
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9
0 |
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4 |
3
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1 |
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3
8
5 |
b
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3
8
5 |
4
2
6 |
3
8
8 |
4
3
9 |
i
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3
8
9 |
3
9
2 |
ii
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3
8
9 |
4
5
8 |
a
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4
5
9 |
b
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4
5
9 |
4
5
5 |
4
5
4 |
4
4
7 |
4
3
7 |
4
4
8 |
4
4
9 |
a
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4
6
4 |
b
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4
6
4 |
c
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4
6
4 |
d
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4
6
4 |
4
6
0 |
H4
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G
A
T
A |
IIa
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Y
C
A |
IIb
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Y
C
A |
4
5
6 |
6
0
7 |
5
7
6 |
5
7
0 |
a
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C
D
Y |
b
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C
D
Y |
4
4
2 |
4
3
8 |
5
3
1 |
5
7
8 |
a
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S1
3
9
5 |
b
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S1
3
9
5 |
5
9
0 |
5
3
7 |
6
4
1 |
4
7
2 |
S1
4
0
6 |
5
1
1 |
4
2
5 |
a
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4
1
3 |
b
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4
1
3 |
5
5
7 |
5
9
4 |
4
3
6 |
4
9
0 |
5
3
4 |
4
5
0 |
4
4
4 |
4
8
1 |
5
2
0 |
4
4
6 |
6
1
7 |
5
6
8 |
4
8
7 |
5
7
2 |
6
4
0 |
4
9
2 |
5
6
5 |
| R1b Modal Values |
XQJ7H |
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13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
18 |
17 |
36 |
38 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
9 |
15 |
16 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
12 |
23 |
23 |
16 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
15 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
20 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
per Mike Walsh (as of 4 Jan 2011) |
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| STROUPE |
114345 |
22RGS |
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12 |
24 |
15 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
31 |
13 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
10 |
11 |
19 |
24 |
16 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
36 |
37 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
9 |
15 |
16 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
12 |
23 |
23 |
16 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
16 |
8 |
12 |
23 |
20 |
13 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
11 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
Pvt3, Pvt2, Lawson
Sidney1 STROUP — s/o Elizabeth
STROUP of Gaston Co., NC |
| COPE |
21515 |
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12 |
24 |
15 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
31 |
13 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
10 |
11 |
19 |
24 |
16 |
15 |
18 |
18 |
36 |
37 |
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Pvt9, Pvt8,
Everard Wilson7, Robert Wilson6, James5,
John Andrew4, George Philip3, Johann Nicholas2,
Yost1 COPE — of Germany & PA [this line also of Rowan and
Cabarrus Cos., NC] |
| QUEEN |
29506 |
DRKUK |
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12 |
24 |
15 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
16 |
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11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
31 |
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Pvt5, Derald4,
William Merrit3, John William2, John William1
QUEEN — of Burke and Montgomery Cos., NC |
| SELLERS |
35356 |
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24 |
15 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
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Pvt11, Loren Floyd10,
James
Byron9, William
B.8, John
Leonard7, Philip
Henry6, John
Leonard5, Philip
Heinrich4, Hans Adam3, Hans Paul2,
Hans Georg1 SÖLLERS — of Baden-Wuerttemberg |
| SELLERS |
????? |
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12 |
24 |
15 |
11 |
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15 |
12 |
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Pvt7, Pvt6,
Winston
S.5, George
Andrew4, Samuel
Andrew3, John2,
John1 SELLERS — NC > SC > Henry Co., GA > Randolph Co., AL |
| #114345 descends from Lawson Sidney STROUPE I, son
of Elizabeth STROUP of Gaston Co., NC, and an unknown father. Even
though his origin on his patrilinal line is not STROUP, he belongs in the
project because, by adopting the surname, he has effectively founded a
new STROUPE line. [The conversion from STRAUB to STROUP happened
to Elizabeth's immigrant ancestor soon after his arrival in the U.S.; the
terminal "e" is a recent addition.] |
| Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in western Europe, and
most R1b's find they have hundreds of matches at 12 markers. However,
#114345 has a rare haplotype, with only four matches in the FTDNA and Ysearch
databases. He has no significant matches at SMGF (as of 5 Apr 2011),
and only one 25/25 match at Ysearch (with the QUEEN, above). The
test result that's preventing these individuals from getting more matches
is DYS393=12 (highlighted in orange in the table), which is usually
13 for R1b1a2. Given the rarity of his haplotype, there is definitely
hope of determining the ancestry of this STROUPE with certainty.
Likewise the COPE and QUEEN. |
| As of Apr 2011, our STROUPE has two 12/12 matches with surname SELLERS,
one 25/25 match with surname QUEEN, and one 36/37 match with surname COPE.
While the QUEEN and SELLERS connections remain tentative, there is no doubt
that the STROUPE and COPE have a near common ancestor. Probably,
they all do because their haplotype is rare. In other words, we're
looking at two NPEs, in addition to our fatherless STROUPE. Circumstances
suggest that the "true" surname here is SELLERS because Elizabeth
STROUP and her family are surrounded
by SELLERS households in the 1880 census, about the time her son, Lawson,
was conceived. What we need here is for the QUEEN and, especially,
the SELLERS to upgrade to at least 37 markers, preferably 67, to determine
whether their match remains tight or falls apart. |
| It isn't necessary for the specific lines tested to have crossed paths,
only that some line of each family did so. For example, SELLERS #35356
descends from Philip Heinrich through his son, John Leonard, a line that
moved from Pennsylvania to Ohio. However, John Leonard had a brother,
George, who moved from Pennsylvania to Gaston Co., NC. It was the
latter line from whom our STROUPE almost certainly descends. |
| SELLERS #35356 is a member of the SELLERS project at FTDNA, and he
shows up in the online database
at the project web site (near the top of the table). He is the
only one in the SELLERS project with DYS393=12. He must not have
his member page set to compare results outside the SELLERS project because
he does not show up on the "Y-DNA Matches" tab of our STROUPE. Conversely,
the one with Kit #???? is in the FTDNA database and shows up as a match
on our subject's Y-DNA Matches tab, but not in the SELLERS project database,
so I don't know his kit number and haven't seen his results displayed anywhere.
As he is a 12/12 match, we can at least go ahead and put him in the table
with the same values as our subject. |
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