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Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
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Earliest
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E
(3/2)

I1
(10/3)

I2
(12/3)

J1
(1/1)

J2
(3/3)

N
(1/1)

R1a
(3/2)

R1b
(77/32)

R1b Subclades Currently Represented in the Project
Except for the "singletons," who have no matches, each lineage group here represents one family, with a common ancestor in genealogical time.

WFN R1b¹ Lineage	SNP Haplogroup	Position on the R1b [ M343/P25 > L389 > P297 > CTS623 > M269 ] Haplotree (P312 and U106 represent the two largest subdivisions of R1b.)	LFA Group	n
I	R-DF5	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312>L21>DF13>DF21>Z30233>CTS8704>Z246>DF25>DF5*	English:Middlesex	23 (+2)²
II	R-CTS6889	M269>L23>L51>PF7589>CTS6889	North Irish	7
III	R-BY3264	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312>DF27>Z195>L176>CTS4188>BY3254>BY3264	Lineage III	5
IV + V³	R-BY41818	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>U106 >Z2265>BY30097>Z381>Z301>L48>Z9>Z30>Z27>Z345>Z2>Z7>Z8>Z338 >Z11>Z341>Z12>Z8175>FGC12057>S18890>FGC12058>FGC12059>BY41818	Lineage IV-V	7 (+1)²
VII	R-M269	M269	Scottish:Glasgow	2
VIII	R-P314	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312>L21>DF13>DF21>FGC3213>P314	South Irish	4
Assigned Subtotal				48 (+3)
no match in project	R-M269	M269	singletons: M269	15
	R-P312	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312	singletons: P312	3
	R-L21	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312>L21	singletons: L21	3
	R-M222	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312>L21>DF13>DF49>Z2980>Z2976>DF23>Z2961>M222	singletons: M222	2
	R-U106	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>U106	singletons: U106	1
	R-L1	M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>U106>Z381>Z156>Z306>Z304>S1667>DF96>S11515>L1	singletons: L1	1
	R-?	?	singletons: unk	1
	Unassigned Subtotal			26
	Total			74 (+3)

¹The two individuals in WFN R1b Lineage VI are both surnamed "LIGON," which I do not see as a phonetic spelling variation of LYON, so I'm excluding them.
²The individuals tallied in parenthesis are not surnamed LYON(S), meaning they appear to have an NPE in their patrilineal lines.
³Some members of Lineage IV have tested only 37 markers, so they need to upgrade their testing to prove their inclusion here, but one member of Lineage IV has a 106/111 match with a member of Lineage V, which is strong evidence for a common ancestor in genealogical time for both lineages.

R1b is the most common haplogroup subclade in western Europe (see distribution map). It's frequency in France and the British Isles — the geographic origin of surname LYON(S) — is 70-90% of the population. Because R1b is so common, it is entirely possible to get low level matches in R1b that are merely coincidental and not an indicator of a near relationship (i.e., possessing a common ancestor within genealogical time). If an individual is anywhere near the modal haplotype for R1b, he will likely have hundreds, if not thousands, of matches at 12 markers; however, this number will drop as more markers are tested. Testing more markers reduces the risk of matching by mere coincidence.

Please note that you can easily match someone perfectly at 12 markers, even another LYON, and still not be related to them, at least not in a genealogical time frame — we're all related if you go back far enough. Likewise, you can have a near match to someone at 25 markers, even another LYON, and still not be related to them. Only in cases where the R1b haplotype is rare can you have any confidence in a match at less than 67 markers. After years of running Y-DNA projects (since 2004), I have come to consider 67 markers the workable standard — and the minimum in R1b.

LYON(S) Haplogroup R1b Modal Haplotypes

If you have an R1b haplotype you wish to compare with these LYON(S), the table below will serve as a quick check to see if you may be a potential match with any of the known lineage groups. If you don't come close to any haplotype, here, you need to check the R1b singletons.

WFN Lineage	Haplogroup	LFA Group	Family	Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12												Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25													Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37												Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67																														Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111
				STR												PP3													PP5												MP6										MP7													MP8							MP9 [mixed]								MP10 [EA]										MP11 [SMGF]								MP12 [all new]									MP13 [mixed]
				3 9 3	3 9 0	19 / 3 9 4	3 9 1	a \| 3 8 5	b \| 3 8 5	4 2 6	3 8 8	4 3 9	i \| 3 8 9	3 9 2	ii \| 3 8 9	4 5 8	a \| 4 5 9	b \| 4 5 9	4 5 5	4 5 4	4 4 7	4 3 7	4 4 8	4 4 9	a \| 4 6 4	b \| 4 6 4	c \| 4 6 4	d \| 4 6 4	4 6 0	H4 \| G A T A	IIa \| Y C A	IIb \| Y C A	4 5 6	6 0 7	5 7 6	5 7 0	a \| C D Y	b \| C D Y	4 4 2	4 3 8	5 3 1	5 7 8	a \| S1 3 9 5	b \| S1 3 9 5	5 9 0	5 3 7	6 4 1	4 7 2	S1 4 0 6	5 1 1	4 2 5	a \| 4 1 3	b \| 4 1 3	5 5 7	5 9 4	4 3 6	4 9 0	5 3 4	4 5 0	4 4 4	4 8 1	5 2 0	4 4 6	6 1 7	5 6 8	4 8 7	5 7 2	6 4 0	4 9 2	5 6 5	7 1 0	4 8 5	6 3 2	4 9 5	5 4 0	7 1 4	7 1 6	7 1 7	5 0 5	5 5 6	5 4 9	5 8 9	5 2 2	4 9 4	5 3 3	6 3 6	5 7 5	6 3 8	4 6 2	4 5 2	4 4 5	A10 \| G A T A	4 6 3	4 4 1	1B 07 \| GG AA T	5 2 5	7 1 2	5 9 3	6 5 0	5 3 2	7 1 5	5 0 4	5 1 3	5 6 1	5 5 2	7 2 6	6 3 5	5 8 7	6 4 3	4 9 7	5 1 0	4 3 4	4 6 1	4 3 5
R-P312/R-L21 Modal Values				13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	15	17	17	11	11	19	23	16	15	18	17	36	38	12	12	11	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	10	10	12	23	23	16	10	12	12	15	8	12	22	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	12	12	35	15	9	16	12	26	26	19	12	11	13	12	10	9	12	12	10	11	11	30	12	13	24	13	10	10	21	15	19	13	24	17	12	15	24	12	23	18	10	14	17	9	12	11

I	R-DF5	English:Middlesex	LYON(S) of Middlesex, ENG, and New England Richard of Fairfield, Henry of Newark, William of Roxbury	13	24	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	15	16	17	10	11	19	23	15	15	17	17	36	38	12	12	11	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	10	10	12	23	25	16	10	12	12	15	8	13	23	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	12	12	35	15	9	16	12	25	26	19	12	11	11	12	11	9	13	12	10	11	11	31	13	13	25	13	10	10	20	15	20	12	24	16	12	15	24	12	24	18	9	14	17	9	12	11
II	R-CTS6889	North Irish	LYON(S) of Northern Ireland	13	25	14	10	11	14	13	12	12	12	13	28	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	18	18	11	11	19	23	16	15	18	17	37	39	12	12	11	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	10	11	12	23	23	15	10	12	12	17	8	12	21	21	14	12	11	13	12	12	12	12	36	15	9	16	12	29	26	19	11	11	12	12	10	9	12	12	10	11	11	29	12	13	24	13	10	11	21	15	19	12	22	16	12	15	24	12	23	18	11	14	18	9	11	11
III	R-BY3264	Lineage III	Thomas LYON of Rye, NY; Henry LYON of NY	13	23	14	10	11	15	12	12	11	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	15	17	11	11	19	23	16	15	20	16	38	39	12	12	13	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	9	10	12	23	23	16	10	12	12	16	8	11	21	19	14	12	11	15	11	11	11	12	35	15	9	18	12	26	26	19	12	11	13	12	10	9	12	12	10	11	11	30	12	13	24	14	10	10	22	15	19	14	26	19	12	16	24	12	23	18	10	14	17	9	12	11
IV+V	R-FGC12058	Lineage IV-V	LYONS of Washington, PA; MD; Ireland?; etc.	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	11	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	18	18	11	11	19	23	17	15	18	17	36	37	13	12	11	9	15	16	7	10	10	8	10	10	12	23	23	16	10	12	12	15	8	12	22	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	13	12	36	15	9	16	12	26	26	19	12	11	13	12	10	9	12	12	10	11	11	30	12	13	24	13	10	10	21	15	18	13	24	18	13	15	24	12	23	18	10	14	17	9	12	11
VII	R-M269	Scottish:Glasgow	John LYON of Glasgow, SCT; etc.	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	11	13	13	29	18	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	15	17	17
VIII	R-P314	South Irish	LYONS of Southern Ireland	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	13	13	13	13	28	15	9	10	11	11	25	15	18	30	15	15	16	17	10	11	19	23	15	15	19	17	38	38	12	12	11	9	16	16	8	10	10	8	11	10	12	23	23	16	11	12	12	15	8	12	22	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	12	13	34	15	9	17	12	25	26	19	12	11	13	12	11	9	12	12	10	11	11	30	12	13	24	13	10	11	20	15	18	12	23	15	12	15	24	12	23	18	10	14	17	9	12	11

What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them — I'll let you know when you shouldn't!

For 12 markers:	9 or less is a non-relative;	for 10-12 markers,	please see this table compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers:	21 or less is a non-relative;	for 22-25 markers,
For 37 markers:	31 or less is a non-relative;	for 32-37 markers,
For 67 markers:	59 or less is a non-relative;	for 60-67 markers,
For 111 markers:	100 or less is a non-relative;	for 101-111 markers,
For any test:	0 matching markers,		please contact NASA.