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Lineages and Results of Y-DNA Testing for Surname LYON and Its Variations
Haplogroup R1b-BY41818 LYON(S) — Lineage Groups IV+V
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Home		 Results
Hub		 Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
(number of individuals / number of families)		 Member
Index		 Earliest
Ancestor
Index
E
(3/2)		 I1
(10/3)		 I2
(12/3)		 J1
(1/1)		 J2
(3/3)		 N
(1/1)		 R1a
(3/2)		 R1b
(77/32)
Haplogroup R1b-FCG12058 (Haplogroup R1b Lineage Groups IV and V of the FTDNA / WFN Lyon(s) Surname Project)
FTDNA SNP Path:  R1b-M269 > L23 > L51 > P310 > L151 > U106 > Z2265 > >BY30097 > Z381 > Z301 > L48 > Z9 > Z30 > Z27 > Z345 > Z2 > Z7 > Z8 > Z338 > Z11 > Z341 > Z12 > Z8175 > FGC12057 > S18890 > FGC12058 > FGC12059 > BY41818
To view lineage, please scroll to the right.
FTDNA
WFN
Lineage
Group		 Genetic Distance
(per panel)		 Surname Kit# FF G
E
N
O
|
2.0		 B
I
G
|
Y		 Most
Downstream
Positive SNP
Actually Tested		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
12 25 37 67 111 3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-L48 Modal Values   13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 17 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 20 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11   (note to myself: need to re-do modal for Panel 5, current one is for R-U106)
Family Modal Values   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 18 17 36 37 13 12   11 9 15 16 7 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 20 15 18 13 24 18 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11   n=8 at 12 and 25 markers; n=7 at 37 markers; n=5 at 67 markers; n=2 at 111 markers 
                                                   
V 0 1 0 0 2 LYONS 259306 FF Y Y BY41818   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 18 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 18 17 36 37 13 12   11 9 15 16 7 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12   36 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 18 13 24 18 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11   Pvt7 Pvt6 Harry Francis5 Henry4 Leonard3 Elijah2 Jonathan1 LYON (1724-) — of Joppa, Harford Co., MD
V 0 1 0 0   LYONS 284034 FF     S18890   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 18 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 18 17 36 37 13 12   11 9 15 16 7 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12                                                                                             Pvt7
V 0 1 0 0 2 LYONS 284023 FF     FGC12058   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 18 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 18 17 36 37 13 12   11 9 15 16 7 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12   36 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 18 13 24 18 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
-1 1 0       LYON A10190881           13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 18   11       17           13 12                                         12     13                                                                                                           Pvt7 Pvt6 Jasper5 Howard4 John3 Richard2 Michael1 LYON (1728-1810) — of MD
IV 1 0 1 0   LYON 222200 FF   Y BY41818   13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17  9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 18 17 37 37 13 12   11 9 15 16 7 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12                                                                                             Pvt7
IV 1 0 2     LYON 149934           13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 17 17 37 37 13 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt10 Pvt9 John Bennett8 George Noah7 William M6 William5 Michael4 Michael3 Richard2 John1 LYON (c1680-1717) — of Charles Co., MD
IV 0 0 2     LYON 203083 FF         13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 18 17 37 38 13 12                                                                                                                                                           Pvt8 Pvt7 James Lee6 Nathan Phillip5 Thomas Bennett4 Nathan3 J. Elijah2 John1 LYON (c1720s-1785) — of Rowan Co., NC
IV 0 0 1 0 1 WITHERS 63958 FF     FGC12058   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 18   11 11 19 23 17 15 18 17 37 37 13 12   11 9 15 16 7 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 20 15 18 13 24 19 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11   Pvt5 Pvt4 James Henry3 William Henry2 James Tandy1 WITHERS (1819-1901) — of Adair Co., KY
1Tested at Ancestry.com, so not included at FTDNA; brother of #222200.
Discussion:
The WFN Lyon(s) Project shows these individuals as belonging to two different families, namely, their Lineage IV and Lineage V.  What brings these two lineage groups firmly together is the 106/111 match between Lineage V #259306 and the Lineage IV WITHERS.  The only values that consistently separate them are mutations at the two most volatile of Y-DNA STR markers:  DYS464 and CDY, which may represent "branch markers" defining two different branches of the family. Not surprisingly, the three descendants of Jonathan LYON (two brothers and their father) match each other perfectly as do the two brothers who descend from Michael LYON.  The two who've only tested 37 markers need to upgrade to 67 markers, preferably 111.  I urge the brothers and father to join the Fathers, Sons, Brothers Project at FTDNA.  These pairings offer us the best probability statistics for the frequency of mutations as we know exactly how many generations separate them.
Their combined SNP test results (sans #259306 and 222200) are:
U106+ L48+ Z9+ Z12+ S18890+  L148- L188- L47-
 
Update (19 Dec 2014):  #259306 has informed me that an analysis of his BigY results shows his most downstream positive SNPs to be:
Z12+ > Z8175+ > S18890+ > FGC12058+
Update (25 Apr 2015):  #222200 has also taken the BigY and shares these results.
What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them — I'll let you know when you shouldn't!
For 12 markers: 9 or less is a non-relative; for 10-12 markers, please see this table compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers: 21 or less is a non-relative; for 22-25 markers,
For 37 markers: 31 or less is a non-relative; for 32-37 markers,
For 67 markers: 59 or less is a non-relative; for 60-67 markers,
For 111 markers: 100 or less is a non-relative; for 101-111 markers,
For any test:  0 matching markers, please contact NASA.
 
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