Phillip STROUP & Maria Magdalena EDELMANN & Catherine MASTERS

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Phillip STROUP
Maria Magdalena EDELMANN
Catherine MASTERS

Husband: Phillip / Philip STROUP
Birth: 16 Aug 1764
Death(?): 13 Apr 1827, Lincoln [now Gaston] Co., NC
Occupation: farmer
Father: Jacob STROUP I
Mother: Nancy HAMBRIGHT

Some sources say Phillip died in 1827, but a Philip STROUP born in the 1760s shows up in the 1830 census of Lincoln Co., NC (see below).

Marriage-1: 9 May 1789, Lincoln Co., NC

Wife-1: Maria Magdalena "Molly" EDELMANN / ADELMAN / ADTLEMAN / ATTELMAN / ADDLEMAN
Baptism: 24 Feb 1766, Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading, Berks Co., PA
Death: 1809
Occupation: homemaker
Father: Johann Peter EDELMANN
Mother: Maria Elisabetha HECKMANN

Marriage-2: 9 Mar 1811, Lincoln Co., NC

Wife-2: Catherine MASTERS
Birth: ca. 1784, Hoyle's Creek, Lincoln [now Gaston] Co., NC
Death: 1870-80, Benton Co., MS
Occupation: homemaker
Father: Michael LEMEISTER
Mother: Mary Margaret __?__

Children with Molly EDELMANN — born in Lincoln [now Gaston] Co., NC:

1. John D. STROUP, b. 4 Apr 1790
2. Jacob STROUP, b. 3 Oct 1792
3. Moses STROUP, b. 1794-96
4. (Son A) STROUP, b. 1794-1800
5. David STROUP, b. 1796/7
6. (Daughter A) STROUP, b. 1794-1800
7. (Daughter B) STROUP, b. 1794-1800
8. Jonas STROUP, b. 1799/1800
9. Elias "Eli" STROUP [twin], b. 1800/1
10. [Susannah?] Ann STROUP [twin], b. 1800/1
11. Dicey / Dicy STROUP, b. 7 Jul 1806

Children with Catherine MASTERS — born in Lincoln [now Gaston] Co., NC:

12. Levi L. STROUP, b. 1812
13. Joanna "Joan" STROUP / STROUPE, b. 14 May 1814
14. Henry STROUP, b. ca. 1815
15. Philip STROUP, Jr., b. ca. 1816
16. Joseph Franklin STROUP, b. 14 Oct 1817
17. Peter STROUP, b. 7 Jun 1821
18. Solomon Leander STROUP (Sr.), b. 2 May 1823
19. Rose Ann / Rosanah / Rosannah / Rosanna STROUP, b. ca. 1824
20. Nancy STROUP, b. 1829/30

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Sources (n.b., Gaston Co., NC, was formed in 1846 from the southern half of Lincoln Co.; Benton Co., MS, was formed in 1870 from Marshall and Tippah Cos.):

1a. D.L. Murray & N.R. Murray, compilers. 1995. Marriage Index: MD, NC, VA, 1624-1915 (Broderbund CD-4):

Stroup, Phillip Adtleman, Molly May 9, 1789 Lincoln Co., NC

1b. Curtis Bynum. 1929. Marriage Bonds of Tryon and Lincoln Counties, North Carolina. Self-published (reprinted 1982/91 by Southern Historical Press, Greenville, SC). In 1779, Tryon Co. was divided into Lincoln and Rutherford Cos., and Tryon Co. ceased to exist.

Groom Bride Surety Date Witness

Stroup, Phillip Adtleman, Molly Boston Adtleman (Adleman) 9 May 1789

Stroup, Phillip x Masters, Catherine Daniel Hoke 9 Mar 1811 H Y Webb

"Boston" is a misspelling of "Bastian," short for Sebastian; he's Molly's brother. The "x" indicates Phillip signed his bond with his "mark."

1c. Jordan R. Dodd, ed. 1993. Kentucky Marriages: Early to 1850. Liahona Research, Orem, UT (Broderbund CD-229):

Stroup, Phillip Adleman, Molly 9 May 1789 Lincoln Co.

2. 1790 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #8 of 11; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1790 NC Lincoln [now Gaston] Co. 9th Company Roll M637_7 p. 123 Ln. 8R Phillip Stoup 1-1-1-0

These data indicate:

Gender and Type Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 free white male 16 or over in or bef. 1774 = Phillip (b. 1764)

1 free white male 15 or under 1774-1790 = John (b. 1790)

1 free white female all ages in or bef. 1790 = Molly (b. 1766)

3. 1800 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #33 of 72 — list was roughly alphabetized; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1800 NC Lincoln [now Gaston] Co. Roll M32_29 p. 857 Ln. 13 Philip Stroup 22010-20010-00

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

2 males 9 or under 1790-1800 = Jonas (b. 1799/1800)
= David (b. 1796/7)
= Son A
= Moses (b. 1793/4)
= Jacob (b. 1792)

2 males 10-15 1784-1790 = John (b. 1790)
= ?

1 male 26-44 1755-1774 = Phillip (b. 1764)

2 females 9 or under 1790-1800 = Daughter B
= Daughter A

1 female 26-44 1755-1774 = Molly (b. 1766)

The sons are not a good fit for this census, so do we have the wrong birthdates, the wrong sons, or a sloppy enumerator?

4. 1810 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #2 of 4 — indexed "Straup"; list was roughly alphabetized; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1810 NC Lincoln [now Gaston] Co. Capt Dellingers Dist Roll M252_40 p. 375A/496 Ln. 9 Phillip Stroup 13201-22001-00

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 9 or under 1800-1810 = Eli (b. 1800/1)

3 males 10-15 1794-1800 = Jonas (b. 1799/1800)
= David (b. 1796/7)
= Son A

2 males 16-25 1784-1794 = Moses (b. 1793/4)
= Jacob (b. 1792)

1 male 45 or over in or bef. 1765 = Phillip (b. 1764)

2 females 9 or under 1800-1810 = Dicey (b. 1806)
= Ann (b. 1800/1)

2 females 10-15 1794-1800 = Daughter B
= Daughter A

1 female 45 or over in or bef. 1765 = Nancy?

Where were Jonas and Son B in the 1800 Census? Are they really our subjects' sons? Phillip's maternal grandmother, Nancy (HAMBRIGHT) RHYNE STROUP, is said to have lived with Phillip until her death.

5. 1820 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #10 of 33 — indexed "Phillips Stroup"; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1820 NC Lincoln [now Gaston] Co. East of the South Fork of the Catawba River Roll M33_83 p. 362 Ln. 35 Phillip Stroup 400301-01401-0-400 no slaves

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

4 males 9 or under 1810-1820 = Joseph (b. 1817)\
= Philip (b. ca. 1816)
= Henry (b. ca. 1815)
= Levi (b. 1812)

3 males 19-25* 1794-1801 = Eli (b. ca. 1801)
= Jonas (b. 1799/1800)
= David (b. 1796/7)

1 male 45 or over in or bef. 1775 = Phillip (b. 1764)

1 female 10-15 1804-1810 = Dicey (b. 1806)

4 females 16-25 1794-1804 = ?
= Daughter C
= Daughter B
= Daughter A

1 female 45 or over in or bef. 1775 = Catherine (b. ca. 1784)

4 persons engaged in agriculture

*In the 1820 Census, the third column is age class 16-18 and the fourth column is age class 16-25; therefore, any individual in column three is duplicated in column four. By subtracting the number in column three from the number in column four, you can create an age class "19-25."

Where is Joan (supposedly born in 1814)?

6. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #155-156 of 214; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1830 NC Lincoln [now Gaston] Co. Roll 122 p. 232 Ln. 21 Philip Stroup 111 200 001 - 200 200 100 no slaves

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 4 or under 1825-1830 =

1 male 5-9 1820-1825 = Solomon (b. 1823)
= Peter (b. 1821)

1 male 10-14 1815-1820 = Joseph (b. 1817)
= Philip (b. ca. 1816)

2 males 15-19 1810-1815 = Henry (b. ca. 1815)
= Levi (b. 1812)

1 male 60-69 1760-1770 = Phillip (b. 1764)

2 females 4 or under 1825-1830 = Nancy (b. 1830)
= Rosanna (b. 1826)

2 females 15-19 1810-1815 = ?
= ?

1 female 40-49 1780-1790 = Catherine (b. ca. 1784)

Either there are a lot of mistakes in the census or we have a lot of bad birthdates for the children or these are not our subjects.

7. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #35-36 of 84; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 NC Lincoln [now Gaston] Co. Lower Regiment Roll 364 pp. 117A-117B Ln. 5 Catharine Stroup 000 110 - 010 110 010 no slaves 0200000

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 15-19 1820-1825 =

1 male 20-29 1810-1820 =

1 female 5-9 1830-1835 =

1 female 15-19 1820-1825 =

1 female 20-29 1810-1820 =

1 female 50-59 1780-1790 = Catherine (b. ca. 1784)

2 persons employed in agriculture

Listed two lines below William STROUP and two lines above Moses STROUP.

8. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #83 of 145): Gaston Co., NC, Roll M432_630, p. 432A, 613/613, enumerated 20 Oct 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Catherine Stroup 62 F 280

Susanah " 42 F

Nancey " 20 F

Listed next to married son, Soloman STROUP.

9. 1860 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #190-191 of 215): Hickory Flatts P.O., Southern Subdivision, Tippah [now Benton] Co., MS, Roll M653_592, pp. 838-839, PN 190-191, 1302/1316, enumerated 5 Sep 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Silas H Philips 50 M Farmer 600 750 SC

Joan " 40 F NC

[Silas & Joan's four children]

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Catherine Stroup 70 F NC

10. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #12 of 14): Salem P.O. Range 1, Township 4, Tippah [now Benton] Co., MS, Roll M593_750, p. 39A, PN 13, 90/90, enumerated 30 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Philips I W 52 M W Farmer 400 550 S Carolina

_______ Rose Ann 40 F W Keeping house N Carolina

[Isaiah & Rose's six children]

Stroup Cath 86 F W N Carolina

11. 1880 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): Catherine not found.

12. Archives of the STRAUB-L mailing list (online at RootsWeb.com).

13. Messages in the Eddleman Family Genealogy Forum (online at GenForum.com).

14. WorldConnect / Ancestry World Trees (online at RootsWeb.com/Ancestry.com).

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