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Lineages and Results of Y-chromosome DNA Testing for Surname RASEY
and Similar Surnames, such as, RAZEE, RACEY, RAZEY, RASAY, RAASAY, RAASEY, RACIE, RACEE, RASY, RASSY, RACY, RAZY, RACE, RAZE, RAISEY, RAISY, RASIE, RAYSAY, RAYSE, etc.
So far, the RASEY Surname Project has results returned for four members representing two major progenitors in the United States: Joseph RAZEE I of Massachusetts, then Rhode Island and Joseph RASEY I of Massachusetts, then New Hampshire.  Testing just these four individuals has resolved two long-standing issues for RASEY/RAZEE/etc. genealogists:

1.  The two families are not genetically matching based on both their STR haplotypes and their SNP haplogroup subclades, thus firmly debunking the assertion that Joseph RAZEE I was the father of Joseph RASEY I. 

2.  The results for the descendants of Joseph RASEY I debunk the legend of a connection to Malcolm MacLEOD of the Isle of Raasay, Scotland, whose kin are Haplogroup R1b, while Joseph's are a subclade of Haplogroup I2.  Being in these different haplogroups means they cannot possibly have shared a common ancestor for tens of thousands of years.

Distribution Map of Haplogroup I, released to the public domain by Hxseek at Wikipedia.
Haplogroup I is found almost exclusively in Europe where it is represented in about 20% of the population, making it the second most common haplogroup in western Europe, after R1b.  Overall, Hg I has a broad European distribution, from the British Isles east to the Ural Mountains of Russia and south to Anatolia and the Mediterranean Sea.  Hg I is divided into two main groups:  I1 and I2, with the former being more common than the latter.
It's difficult to generalize about I2 because it contains a number of geographically separate subgroups.  One subgroup of I2 is concentrated in the Balkans and is called "Dinaric" (named for a mountain range there, the Dinaric Alps), while another subgroup is found around the Baltic and North Sea coastal areas, another in the British Isles, and another in Sardinia and Iberia.  One subgroup of I2, called "Isles," is almost exclusive to the British Isles, with a high concentration in Scotland, while our members turn out to belong to two different sub-clusters of "Continental."  Continental is believed to have originated in western France and to have spread from there northwards into Scandinavia and eastwards to the Black Sea.
If you are interested in your deep ancestry, as evidenced by your haplogroup subclade, I would recommend being deep SNP tested, joining the Y-Haplogroup-I-M223 project, and subscribing to the Y-DNA-Haplogroup-I mailing list.
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L1198 Continental-1 Group 1 Joseph RAZEE I (1686-<1755) of Attleboro, MA, and Providence, RI 2
BY13318 Continental-2b Group 1 Joseph RASEY I (c1734- ) of Worcester Co., MA, and Cheshire Co., NH 2
Joseph PARMETER (c1760- ) of Windsor, VT 1
Sylvanus PALMERTON (1730-1817) of England 1
Melvin PALMERTON (1863- ) of Ohio 1
Legend of Known Progenitors
John RASYE / RASEY / RAZEY (b. ca. 1530s), of Wiltshire, England
Joseph RAZEE I (1686-1755), Bristol Co., MA > Providence Co., RI
Joseph RASEY I (c1734-1810), Worcester Co., MA > Cheshire Co., NH
Joseph RASEY (b. ca. 1768), of Isle La Motte, VT, through his only known son,
James RASEY / RACEY / RACY (1792-1883) of Franklin Co., NY 
This Joseph RASEY is probably Joseph RASEY II, s/o Joseph RASEY I (above), but proof is needed.
Philip RACEY of Norfolk, England, whose grandson, Luke RACEY (1750-1813)
immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1773, then settled in Hampshire Co., VA [now WV]
Simplified Y-DNA Haplogroup I2 Haplotree Focused on the Position of BY13318 and Its Subclades
(The tree is shown in FTDNA order; the ISOGG is tree adjusted to fit where possible.  Blanks mean the tree had no comparable clade.)
SNPs Subclades1
ISOGG2 FTDNA3
M170 I I-M170
___ M253 I1 I-M253
P215 I2 I-P215
___ L417 I 2b I-L417
CTS2257 I 2a I-CTS2257
___ L460 I 2a1 I-L460
___ P37 I 2a1a I-P37
P214 I 2a1b I-P214
___ M223 I 2a1b 1 I-M223
___ CTS616 I 2a1b 1a I-CTS616
___ FGC15073 Y3721 I 2a1b 1a1  
CTS10057 I 2a1b 1a2 I-CTS10057
___ L702 I 2a1b 1a2a I-L702
Z189 = Z161 I 2a1b 1a2b  I-Z189
___ L801 [newly discovered in 2011 when RASEY #69631 took the "Walk-the-Y" test] I 2a1b 1a2b 1 I-L801
___ Z165 CTS10743 S12350 S2458 Z170 Z173 I 2a1b 1a2b 1a I-Z165
___ CTS19777 S12077 S25248 Y4945 I 2a1b 1a1b 1a1 I-CTS19777
___ Y4946   I-Y4946
___ Y5282 I 2a1b 1a1b 1a1a I-Y5282
Y8935 BY46848 Y10982 Y10983 Y12056 Y8936 I 2a1b 1a2b 1a1c I-Y8935
Y7824 Y15593 Y15788 Y7153 Y7826 Y7831-36 I 2a1b 1a2b 1a1b I-Y7824
___ Y7829 I 2a1b 1a2b 1a1b 1 I-Y7829
___ BY13318 BY13317 BY13319-24 BY13326
BY13339-48 BY152086 BY199139 BY199713 BY56391
Y47400 Y51033 Y51915 Y54267 Y56176
  I-BY13318
Kit #221356 RASEY
___ A2475* 1174322**   I-**TBA
___ BY26784 BY26785 Kit #B384613 S PALMERTON
Kit #489530 D PARMETER
14761294 22282193 Kit #453571 J PALMERTON
Y7827 I 2a1b 1a2b 1a1b 1a I-Y7827
*#B384613 is a no-call for A2475; I'm assuming he's positive. **Newly named SNP, TBA.


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Y-DNA SNP Haplogroup I2-L1198 (as of 31 May 2017)...
FTDNA SNP Path:  I2-M223 > CTS616 >CTS10057 > Z189 > L801 > Z165 > CTS6433 > S2364 > S2361 > Z171 > CTS8584 > Z185 > Z180 > L1198
YFull SNP Path:  I2-M223 > CTS616 > CTS10057 > Z161 > L801 > CTS6433 > S2364 > S2361 > Z78 > CTS8584 > Z185 > Z180 > L1198
ISOGG SNP Path:  I2a2a-M223 > CTS616 > CTS10057 > Z161 > L801
Continental-1 Group 1 STR Cluster
To view lineages, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit# Ysearch
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Continental-1 modal values   15 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 31   15 8 10 11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15   11  9 19 21 14 14 17 19 33 39 12 10   11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 10  9 12 21 22 15 11 12 12 13 9 13 27 20 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 24 27 16 12 11 12 11 13 9 11 11 10 11 12 32 10 12 22 13 11 10 20 15 22 9 23 14 12 14 28 12 21 18 12 15 17 9 12 11   modals per Hg I2-M223 Project (2 Feb 2012)
                                     
RAZEE 70816 99R47   15 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 31   16 8  9 11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15   11  9 19 21 14 14 18 18 32 40 12 10   11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 10 10 12 21 21 16 11 12 12 13 9 13 27 20 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 24 27 16 12 11 12 10 12 9 11 11 10 11 12 32 10 12 22 13 11 10 20 15 23 9 23 14 14 14 28 12 20 18 12 15 17 9 12 11   Pvt6, George Dallas5, Benjamin4, Anthony3, Benjamin2, Joseph1 RAZEE I
RASEY 110919     15 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 31   15 8  9 11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15   11  9 19 21 14 14 18 18 34 40 12 10                                                                                                                                                           Pvt9, Pvt8, Isaac S.7, Norval Adelbert6, Edward Arnold5, Aaron4, Joseph3, Joseph2, Joseph1 RAZEE I
Based on Jim Cullen's Haplogroup I Subclade Predictor, this family has a 100% probability of being I-M223-Continental-1
#70816 has been deep SNP tested, with these results:
V218+ M223+ L800+ M284- L126- M379- P78- P95- L380-  L801
Update (23 May 2012; 30 May 2012):
Z186+ Z161+ L340+ Z78+ L1198+ Z79- L343-
#70816 and #110919 have a paper descent from Joseph RAZEE I, and they match each other 35/37 (genetic distance 3), with the differences being on fast-mutating markers.  This result is consistent with them having a near common ancestor and supports their paper connection.  They have no significant matches with anyone else in either the FTDNA or Ysearch databases.
           

Y-DNA SNP Haplogroup I2-BY13318 (as of 11 Dec 2018)...
FTDNA SNP Path:  I2-M223 > CTS616 > CTS10057 > Z189(=Z161) > L801 > Z165(=Z170) > CTS1977 > Y4946 > Y7824(=Y15788) > Y7829 > BY13318
YFull SNP Path:  I2-M223 > CTS616 > CTS10057 > Z161 > L801 > Z170 > CTS1977 > Y4946 > Y15788 > Y7829
Continental-2b Group 1 STR Cluster
To view lineages, please scroll to the right.
Genetic Distance Surname Kit# FF Adv.
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  Panel 1 Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 Standard Markers 68-111  
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19 16 12 26 55 128 MacLEOD R1b modal values   13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   16 9 11   11 11 26 15 19 31 14 15 15 16       11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 37 37   12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 22 20 15 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   34 15 9 16 13 28 26 19 12 11 12 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 14 24 13 10 10 18 15 19 14 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 13 11   Markers 1-67 per MacLeod Project (Sep 2006); Panel 5 per MacLeod Project (28 Dec 2018)
2 2 4 9 10 27 Continental-2b modal values   14 23 15 10 14 15 11 13 11 14 12 32   15 8 10   11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15       11 10 19 21 15 14 17 18 34 39   12 10   11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 10  9 12 21 22 15 12 12 12 14 9 14 26 20 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 24 27 16 12 11 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 32 10 12 22 13 11 10 20 15 22  9 23 14 13 14 27 12 21 18 12 15 17 9 12 11   per DGM
0 0 0 0 0 0 RASEY Family modal values   14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 33   16 8 10   11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15 14 14   11 10 19 21 14 14 17 17 36 39   12 10   11 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 22 16 11 12 12 14 9 13 28 18 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 25 27 16 13 11 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 30 10 12 22 14 11 10 21 15 23 11 23 14 13 14 27 12 22 18 13 15 17 9 12 11   n = 5 at 111 markers
                                     
0 0 0 0 1 1 Rasey   69631   WTY   CTS1997   14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 33   16 8 10   11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15 14 14   11 10 19 21 14 14 17 17 36 39   12 10   11 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 22 16 11 12 12 14 9 13 28 18 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 25 27 16 13 11 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 30 10 12 22 14 11 10 16 15 23 11 23 14 13 14 27 12 22 18 13 15 17 9 12 11   Pvt7 Donald Elza6 Ira Cornelius5 John C.4 Joseph3 John2 Joseph1 RASEY I (c1728-1780s) of New England
0 1 0 0 1 2 Rasey  221356   BigY YF03501 BY13318   14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 33   17 8 10   11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15 14 14   11 10 19 21 14 14 17 17 36 39   12 10   11 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 22 16 11 12 12 14 9 13 28 18 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 25 27 16 13 11 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 30 10 12 22 14 11 10 21 15 23 11 23 14 13 14 27 12 21 18 13 15 17 9 12 11   Pvt7 Virgil6 Sidney5 Charles4 Chester3 Silas2
                                     
0 ½ 1 1 5 Palmerton  453571 FF BigY   BY13318   14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 33   16 8 10 8 11 11 25 14 20 28 11 11 14 15 14 14   11 10 19 21 14 14 17 17 36 39 36 12 10   11 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 22 16 11 12 12 14 9 13 28 19 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 25 27 16 13 11 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 30 10 12 22 14 11 10 21 15 22 11 23 14 13 14 27 12 22 18 13 15 17 9 12 11   Pvt4 Pvt3 Laurence2 Melvin1 PALMERTON (1863- ) of Ohio
0 ½ 0 1 4 Palmerton B384613 FF BigY   BY13318   14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 14 12 33   16 8 10 8 11 11 25 14 20 27 11 14 14 15 14 14   11 10 19 21 14 14 17 17 36 39 37 12 10   11 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 22 16 11 12 12 14 9 13 28 18 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   32 13 8 15 11 25 27 16 13 11 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 30 10 12 22 14 11 10 21 15 23 11 23 14 13 14 27 12 22 18 13 15 17 9 12 11   Pvt8 Pvt7 Roswell Kelsey6 Roswell Kelsey5 Samuel4  Sylvenus3 William2 Sylvanus1 PALMERTON (1730-1817) of England
1 0 0 4 Parmeter  489530   BigY   BY13318   14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 11 13 12 32   16 8 10 8 11 11 24 14 20 27 11 14 14 15 14 14   11 10 19 21 14 14 17 17 36 39 37 12 10   11 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 22 16 11 12 12 14 9 13 28 18 11 13 12 12 11 12 12 11   31 13 8 15 11 25 27 16 13 11 12 11 12 9 12 11 10 11 12 30 10 12 22 14 11 10 21 15 23 11 23 14 13 14 27 12 22 18 13 15 17 9 12 11   Pvt8 Pvt7 Jas Wallace6 Jonas5 William H4 William3 Asher2 Joseph1 PARMETER (c1760- ) of Windsor, VT 
                                     
Discussion:
The Y-Haplogroup I-M223 Project has placed our two RASEYs in the Continental 2b - Group 1 STR Cluster.  Alleged Connection to Malcolm MacLEOD

The RASEY family has so few values in common with the MacLEOD family modal haplotype that there is not the slighted possibility they are closely related to them.  Knowing just the haplogroup, alone, is enough to debunk the legend of a connection between Joseph RASEY I and Malcolm MacLEOD of the Isle of Raasay, Scotland, whose kin are Haplogroup R1b.  People in these two  haplogroups (I2 and R1b) haven't had a common ancestor for tens of thousands of years.  And given that fact, we wouldn't expect their haplotypes to match or be even close to our subject.  This expectation is overwhelmingly realized by comparing the Joseph RASEY descendants' haplotypes to the modal R1b haplotypes in the MacLEOD project (see above).  At 111 markers, their modal haplotypes have a Genetic Distance of 128 a resounding non-match!

The descendants of Joseph RASEY I, the PALMERTONs, and the PARMETER are tight STR and SNP matches supporting that they have a near common ancestor in genealogical time.  I'm working on their census records, and we do find the RASEY and PARMETER families crossing paths in Vermont and New York.
DYS712 (in Panel 5) is an extremely volatile marker, so a five-step mutation is not an error.  It should be counted as 1 for the purpose of calculating GD (genetic distance) because it probably happened in a single mutation event.
Both RASEYs, plus the PARMETER and PALMETER, have six alleles at DYS464 (in Panel 2).  Having more than four alleles at DYS464 is uncommon, occurring in only about 1.5% of tested individuals.  The two extra 14 alleles probably appeared in a single mutation event, which duplicated the two existing 14 alleles, so the mutation is counted as 1 when calculating GD.  The WTY test for #69631 revealed the six alleles at DYS464 are g-type alleles.
The addition of alleles for the PARMETER / PALMETERs at DYS459 (Panel 2) and CDY (in Panel 3) probably happened in a single event just as the addition of two alleles at DYS464 happened in a single, but different, event.  Because I've calculated GD per panel, I've had to split the GD into halves between the two panels. Update (11 Aug 2016; 31 May 2017):  The BigY SNP test taken by #221356 includes some 400+ Y-DNA STR marker results.  These results are not displayed by FTDNA, but are included in the YFull analysis of the BigY BAM file.  Our subject has 28 private (unique) STR marker values and no significant matches within these added markers in the YFull database.  He has 155 distant matches with GDs ranging from 50/292 to 100/411. 

SNP Testing:
#69631 and #221356 have been deep SNP tested, with these results:
M223+ M284- L126- M379- P78- P95-
The positive value for M223 prove they are I2a2a.  #69631 has also tested L592; as expected, the result was negative.
#69631 has now (10 Oct 2011) been tested for the WTY program (GRC11054714), with these positive results:
L15 L16 L34 L35 L36 L37 L41 L74 L181 L340 L350 L352 L380 L403 L460 L470 L503 L622
M42 M89 M139 M170 M223 M294 P9.1 P38 P123 P143 P158 P214 P215 P217 P218 P222 P223
SRY10831.1 V64 V174 V189 V202 V203 V205 V226 V235 V238
including these three new SNPs:
V218.2 (ChrY:6722712 C to T) L800 (ChrY:7943549 G to A) L801 (ChrY:20223143 A to C)
As more people are taking these tests, it appears that V218.2 (a.k.a., V218) is synonymous with P19 and other SNPs defining Haplogroup I.  It also appears that L800 is synonymous with M223 and other SNPs definining Haplogroup I2a2a.  However, L801 appears to distinguish the various "Continental" STR clusters of M223.
Updates (28 Mar 2012; 23 May 2012; 30 May 2012; 2 Jan 2014; 20 Jan 2014; 27 Feb 2014; 3 Jan 2015):
L460+ L340+ Z186+ Z76+ Z161+ CTS1977+ L592- CTS1858- CTS6433- L343- L1439- Z78- Z79- L1290- S16196- PF2384-
The RAZEE is Z78+, so this is another difference between the two families.
Update (5 May 2015):  #221256 has taken the BigY...
Update (29 May 2015):  the BigY results for #221256 have been analyzed by YFull (see discussion to the upper right).

         

What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them I'll let you know when you shouldn't!
For 12 markers: 9 or less is a non-relative; for 10-12 markers, please see this table compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers: 21 or less is a non-relative; for 22-25 markers,
For 37 markers: 31 or less is a non-relative; for 32-37 markers,
For 67 markers: 59 or less is a non-relative; for 60-67 markers,
For 111 markers: 100 or less is a non-relative; for 101-111 markers,
For any test:  0 matching markers, please contact NASA.

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