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Comparison of BigY Tested CARRICOs
Descendants of Peter CARRICO, 1674 Immigrant to Maryland
Four members of the CARRICO Y-DNA Surname Project all good Y-DNA STR matching patrilineal line descendants of Peter CARRICO, 1674 immigrant to Maryland have been BigY tested, namely:
       two descendants of Charles CARRICO of MD, KY, and Sullivan Co., IN
       two descendants of Matthew Gillaspie CARRICO of Spencer Co., KY, and Panola Co., TX

All four have submitted their BigY BAM files to YFull.com for analysis both to refine their geographic origin and to find out if the detailed SNP results and/or the added STR results could aid in identifying lines of descent from their progenitor, Peter CARRICO I.  Their results are compared in the tables below.

Their terminal SNP on the YFull Experimental J2 Haplotree is Y16995, and they are alone in this subclade.  The more unique SNPs a subclade possesses, the more SNP mutations have occurred since their last common ancestor.  Our CARRICOs possess 53 unique SNPs separating them from their nearest upstream clade.  This huge genetic distance places their most recent common ancestor at 9400 ± 325 YBP (years before present), which means they are so distantly related to anyone else that, alas, their Y-DNA haplogroup subclade gives us little clue as to their geographic origin in historical times, unless and until they get a match to someone with a known geographic origin in the Old World.  In other words, the long-standing dispute over whether the CARRICOs were French or Portuguese is still not settled.
The mutation defining J2-M67 occurred an estimated 11.6 ± 2.6 thousand years ago.  Today, the subclade is distributed thinly throughout southern and eastern Europe, the Middle East, and northern Africa, but is concentrated in Italy and the countries surrounding the eastern Black Sea, namely, Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, and southern Russia.  See Figure 2, Map E in Semino et al. (2004. American Journal of Human Genetics 74(5):1023-1034) for distribution of J-M67.

If YFull is showing our last common ancestor at ca. 9400 YBP, it makes sense that we are a very early offshoot of J-M67.

It is interesting to note, from Semino's map, that the distribution of J-M67 is focused in the area east of the Black Sea, in the region of Dmanisi, an extremely important historical, archaeological, and paleoanthropological site (see Dmanisi at Wikipedia and linked articles).

As it happens, the FTDNA BigY test actually includes more than SNPs; it returns results for upwards of 500 or more STR markers (including the 111 standard FTDNA markers).  FTDNA does not supply these STR results along with the BigY SNP Results, but for a fee, YFull will extract them.  These STR results are not put on public display, but each individual can view them by logging in to their YFull account.

Bear in mind that one reason FTDNA does not display these markers is that these do not undergo FTDNA's usual quality control process.  There may be errors in these readings.

Not every STR gets a read, at all, so each person will have somewhat fewer than 500+ STR marker results, and because we are testing near relatives, nearly all of our STR values will be the same, just as they were with the standard FTDNA 111 markers.  It was hoped that in looking at these added markers we might find enough variation to separate lines in the family.

With all four data sets now returned two descendants of Charles and two descendants of Matthew Gillaspie we find that they do have consistent STR marker differences!  This bodes well for eventually being able to identify family lines using these markers.  But note that the weaknesses of this comparison are 1) that the two descendants of Matthew are much more closely related than the two descendants of Charles, and 2) that we do not have a tested pair with a documented paper connection to Peter.  If you are such an individual, please get BigY tested.

And please note that, at 111 markers, the descendants of Charles and Matthew were already considered a close match, with a probable common ancestor downstream of Peter I.  So, if we can distinguish these two branches, it may be even easier to distinguish other branches of the famly tree.

genetic genealogy

BigY Tested CARRICOs
FTNDA # YFull# Name Patrilineal Ancestry
143924 YF03978 Paul Pvt6 Max William5 John Robert4 Charles G3 Basil2 Charles1
160239 YF05009 Don Austin R5 Josiah Converse4 Basil Jordan3 Josiah2
145426 YF04066 Fred John Eugene4 Winant Gillaspy3 William David2 Matthew Gillaspie1  
256091 YF06037 Phil Vernon Gillaspie4
 
BigY Data from "Matching" Tab at FTDNA (as of 18 Jun 2016)

Number of Matching SNPs

FTDNA# Name  Paul Don Fred Phil
143924  Paul   26,345 26,072 26,197
160239 Don 26,345   26,289 26,572
145426 Fred 26,072 26,289   26,175
256091 Phil 26,197 26,572 26,175  
 

Number of Shared Novel Variants

FTDNA# Name Paul Don Fred Phil
143924  Paul   145 146 163
160239 Don 145   138 187
145426 Fred 146 138   155
256091 Phil 163 187 155  
 
Novel Variants
Ancestral for All Four CARRICOs
6250465, 7030169, 7037795, 7339420, 7878510, 7910634, 7972511, 8031784, 8037421, 8070491, 8119001, 8291185, 8391469, 8791959, 8806074, 9159717, 9425946, 9436282, 18519121, 18941233, 18981776, 19039077, 19123575, 19360123, 19408471, 19591984, 19616979, 19682335, 19733398, 19790628, 20815243, 21041095, 21340538, 21403266, 21713762, 21782651, 21923739, 21925528, 21930574, 22241918, 22242700, 2243175, 22243798, 22243815, 22244242, 22244290, 22244317, 22244401, 22244514, 2244675, 22244750, 22257484, 22265453, 22265629, 22265727, 22265817, 22281387, 2281397, 22281430, 22281460, 22309641, 22318893, 22539088, 22609229, 23195557, 3298309, 23380300, 23408938, 23471503, 23546963, 23621172, 23640151, 23641771, 3643159, 24287968, 24426922, 24430190, 24807178, 25342445, 25402986
Derived for Paul and Don Only Derived for Fred and Phil Only
7158945, 175343888, 18318533, 22240888, 22244804, 22317372 22224622, 22253461
Private for Paul Private for Don Private for Fred Private for Phil
9320454, 22231783, 22231790, 22242293, 22242328, 22254818, 22254873, 22265585, 22265599, 22265610, 22279232, 22279295, 22294869 7534406, 15405302, 19103157, 22244581, 22278052, 22278262, 22303211, 22303225, 22317378, 22438971 8502862, 10038100, 10038717, 13211463, 13254909, 13673359, 13682543, 13713740 22246815, 22253480, 22257537, 22257553, 22265411, 22265416,
22265911, 22265920, 22265930, 22277862, 22281503, 22281510, 
22281520
The most parsimonious path for three of them to be derived for a variant, with a fourth one ancestral, is if the fourth one has a back mutation downstream of the other three, thus making the ancestral back mutation Private for that individual.  However, because back-mutations in a few generations are improbable, the most likely scenario here is that one of the tests failed, that is, the variant is most likely ancestral for all four, so I'm going to ignore them for the present.
Derived for Paul, Don, and Fred, but not for Phil.
13683661, 13684562, 13698219, 13716959, 13721754, 14106407, 14175308, 14282749, 14323895, 14379618, 14398912, 14541948, 14603639
Derived for Paul, Don, and Phil, but not for Fred.
6141514, 7396550, 22265453, 22265629, 22265727, 22265817, 22265874, 22281356, 22281387, 22281397, 22281430, 22281460, 22309635
Derived for Paul, Fred, and Phil, but not for Don.
22242777, 22254639, 22254669, 22257455
Derived for Don, Fred, and Phil, but not for Paul.
6676553, 7867941, 21287447, 21766568, 22242610, 22242681, 22243922, 22244211, 22244410, 22244458, 22244643, 22244688
There are two most parsimonious ways for one of each of the related pairs to be derived for two variants.  One is for the new, derived mutation to have appeared independently, twice.  The other is for a back-mutation to the ancestral condition to have appeared independently, twice, in a variant that was derived for the four of them.  To determine which is the case would require testing more CARRICOs.  On the other hand, the most likely scenario is that one of more of these tests failed, so I'm going to ignore these at the moment.
Derived for Paul and Fred Only
none
Derived for Paul and Phil Only
22231745, 22254503, 22257711, 22258522, 22275642, 22275649, 22275676, 22279707, 22307369, 22309613, 22313229, 22318836, 22318855
Derived for Don and Fred Only
16441973, 17919809
Derived for Don and Phil Only
9755847, 18414431, 21091068, 22244556, 22265459, 22303257, 22313027, 22325422, 22339620, 22339639, 22340345, 22340347, 22438895 
CARRICO Y-DNA SNP Haplotree
SNPs Subject(s)
6250465, 7030169, 7037795, 7339420, 7878510, 7910634, 7972511, 8031784, 8037421, 8070491, 8119001, 8291185, 8391469, 8791959, 8806074, 9159717, 9425946, 9436282, 18519121, 18941233, 18981776, 19039077, 19123575, 19360123, 19408471, 19591984, 19616979, 19682335, 19733398, 19790628, 20815243, 21041095, 21340538, 21403266, 21713762, 21782651, 21923739, 21925528, 21930574, 22241918, 22242700, 2243175, 22243798, 22243815, 22244242, 22244290, 22244317, 22244401, 22244514, 2244675, 22244750, 22257484, 22265453, 22265629, 22265727, 22265817, 22281387, 2281397, 22281430, 22281460, 22309641, 22318893, 22539088, 22609229, 23195557, 3298309, 23380300, 23408938, 23471503, 23546963, 23621172, 23640151, 23641771, 3643159, 24287968, 24426922, 24430190, 24807178, 25342445, 25402986 All Four
____ 7158945, 175343888, 18318533, 22240888, 22244804, 22317372 Paul & Don
____ 9320454, 22231783, 22231790, 22242293, 22242328, 22254818, 22254873, 22265585, 22265599, 22265610, 22279232, 22279295, 22294869 Private
for Paul
7534406, 15405302, 19103157, 22244581, 22278052, 22278262, 22303211, 22303225, 22317378, 22438971 Private
for Don
22224622, 22253461 Fred & Phil
____ 8502862, 10038100, 10038717, 13211463, 13254909, 13673359, 13682543, 13713740 Private
for Fred
22246815, 22253480, 22257537, 22257553, 22265411, 22265416,
22265911, 22265920, 22265930, 22277862, 22281503, 22281510, 
22281520
Private
for Phil

 
The next tables come from the "BigY Results" page at these members' FTDNA accounts.  I'm having trouble reconciling the data between the "Known SNPs" tab and the "Matching" tab.  Apparently, I don't understand what this value represents.
Number of Known SNP Differences as Shown on "Matching" Tab
FTDNA# Name Paul Don Fred Phil
143924  Paul   1 1 1
160239 Don 1   0 1
145426 Fred 1 0   2
256091 Phil 1 1 2
 
Haplotrees

ISOGG Haplotree for Haplogroup J (as of 14 Dec 2016)

The ISOGG haplotree is the only one of the major trees still giving clades hierarchical labels.
SNPs Clade
M304 J
____ M267 J1
M172 J2
____ M410 J2a
____ L26 J2a1
____ M47 J2a1a
M67 J2a1b1
____ M92,  M260/Page 14 J2a1b1
____ L556, L560___ J2a1b1a
M166 J2a1b2
L210, L218, L227 J2a1b3
M68 J2a1c
M319 J2a1d
M339 J2a1e
M419 J2a1f
P81/PF4275 J2a1g
F4168/L24/S286, L207.1 J2a1h
L88.2, L198 J2a1i
L581 J2a2
M12 J2b
1plus subclades, but not including ours.
 
FTDNA Haplotree for Haplogroup J (as of 14 Dec 2016)
SNP Clade
M304 J-M304
__ M267 J-M267
M172 J-M172
__ M410 J-M410
__ CTS7683 J-CTS7683
__ L26 J-L26
__ PF5088 J-PF5088
__ PF5125 J-PF5125
__ Z2227 J-Z2227
__ Z1846 J-Z1846
__ M67 J-M67
__ Z1847 J-Z1847
__ Y4036 J-Y4036
__ Z28551, Z6268 J-Z28551
 
YFull Experimental Haplotree for Haplogroup J (as of 14 Dec 2016)
SNP (# of defining SNPs) Clade
M304 (146) J
__ M267 (185) J1
M172 (30) J2
__ M410 (117) J-M410
__ PF4610 (22) J-PF4610
__ L26 (27) J-L26
__ PF5087 (2) J-PF5087
__ PF5116 (4) J-PF5116
__ PF5119 (23) J-PF5119
__ L558 (11) J-L558
__ M67 (13) J-M67
__ Y4036 (1) J-Y4036
__ Y17067 (46) J-Y17067
__ Y16995 (53) J-Y16995
YFull Analyses (as of 14 Jul 2016)

Shared SNPs TMRCA 325 (600<->175) YBP
Shared + Assumed Shared = All Shared

FTDNA# YFull# Name Paul Don Fred Phil
143924  3978 Paul   73 + 15 = 88 71 + 16 = 87 74 + 13 = 87
160239  5009 Don 73 + 15 = 88   77 + 16 = 93 73 + 19 = 92
145426  4066 Fred 71 + 16 = 87 77 + 16 = 93   67 + 23 = 90
256091 6037 Phil 75 + 13 = 88 73 + 19 = 92 69 + 22 = 90  
 
Novel SNPs
FTDNA#  YFull# Name Quality One
Reading
INDELs
Best Acceptable Ambiguous Low
143924 3978 Paul   ChrY: 19199131 YFS4988895 pvt
ChrY: 19199132 YFS4988896 pvt
34 0 0 2
160239 5009 Don   ChrY: 19103158 YFS1282100 pvt
ChrY: 28533129 YFS1282484 up to J-Y16995
20 0 0 0
145426 4066 Fred ChrY:  8502862 YF506580   pvt   13 0 1 0
256091 6037 Phil ChrY: 16893313 YFS1867632 pvt
ChrY: 21076577 YFS1867672 pvt
ChrY:  6731232 YFS1867383 up to J-Y16995
ChrY: 21790594 YFS1867676 up to J-Y16995
20 0 0 0
 
STR Matches
cf = compared STRs | diff = differences
FTDNA# YFull# Name   # of
markers
reported
   Paul Don Fred Phil
# cf # diff # cf # diff # cf # diff # cf # diff
143924  3978 Paul 496     425 13 425 15 411 14
160239  5009 Don 500 425 13     430 19 423 16
145426  4066 Fred 497 425 15 430 19     416 9
256091 6037 Phil 500 411 14 423 16 416 9    
For comparison purposes, YFull counts only those differences where both had a returned value.
 
STR Differences Close Matches:  Four
Our subjects are matching for most of their 496-500 markers, with their differences tabulated below.
Branch or possible branch mutations in bright blue or orange; private or apparently private mutations in bright yellow.
FTDNA# YFull# Name STR Marker Differences
CDY DYF DYR DYS
.2 386.3 3 30 55 70 75 81 82 119 124.3 125.1 126 130 139 158 159 163 164 165 170 504 611 684 685 686 688 701 711 713 714 723
Ancestral 11 14 13 14 10 13 17 14 16 32 26 40 18 39 42 21
143924 3978 Paul 36 15 10 13 12 11 14 36 10 17 14 23 10 n/a 21 15 16 33 26 43 40 16 19 56 40 20 n/a 5 n/a 43 26 22
160239 5009 Don 37 14 11 13 12 12 14 36.a 10 18 14 23  9 13 20 14 18 33 29 42 40 15 19 n/a 39 21 71 5 57 42 26 22
145426 4066 Fred 37 15 10 15 12 11 15 36 11 17 13 22 10 12 18 15 17 33 27 40 41 16 19 55 41 21 70 6 56 44 25 22
256091 6037 Phil n/a 15 10 n/a 13 11 15 36 11 17 14 23  9 13 17 15 17 32 27 39 41 16 18 n/a 41 21 n/a 5 n/a 44 26 21
 
STR Differences Distant Matches:--None
We're so different from anyone else, we don't even have distant matches!

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