John Rose STROUP & Ms. __?__ & Harriet WEBSTER

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John Rose STROUP
Ms. __?__
Harriet WEBSTER

Husband: John Rose STROUP
Birth: 20 Oct 1814, PA
Death: 18 Nov 1900, Tionesta Twp., Forest Co., PA
Occupation: farmer
Father: Daniel STROUP
Mother: Elizabeth ROSE

Marriage-1:

Wife-1: Ms. __?__

I have no proof that John had a prior wife, but it would explain the two older girls in the 1840 census.

Marriage-2: 16 Mar 1837, Venango Co., PA

Wife-2: Harriet WEBSTER
Birth: 19 Apr 1818, CT
Death: 6 Feb 1895, Tionesta Twp., Forest Co., PA
Occupation: homemaker
Probable brother: George WEBSTER, b. 1826/7, PA

Children with Wife-1 — born in Rockland Twp., Venango Co., PA:

1. (Daughter A) STROUP, b. 1830-35
2. (Daughter B) STROUP, b. 1830-35

Children with Harriet WEBSTER:

— born in Rockland Twp., Venango Co., PA:
3. William A. STROUP, b. 25 Dec 1838; d. 16 Oct 1854
4. John West STROUP, b. 16 Jul 1840
5. Anna Elizabeth STROUP, b. 4 Mar 1842; d. 15 Aug 1900
6. Precilla / Priscilla STROUP, b. 27 Mar 1844
7. Almira STROUP, b. 8 May 1846; d. 18 May 1862
8. Miranda M. STROUP, b. 17 May 1848
9. James P. STROUP, b. Jan 1850 or 15 Mar 1850; m. Ella __?__

— born in PA, either in Rockland Twp., Venango Co., PA, or Tionesta, Forest Co., PA:
10. Harriet E. STROUP, b. 21 May 1853 or 1854
11. Alonzo W. STROUP, b. 19 Jul 1857

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Sources (n.b., Forest Co. was officially created in 1848 from Jefferson and Venango Cos., but not functional until 1857; gained considerably from Venango in 1865):

1. Marriage Record:

2. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #7 of 14; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 PA Venango Co. Rockland Twp. p. 110B Ln. 7 J.R. Stroup 100 010 - 020 010

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 4 or under 1835-1840 = William (b. 1837/8)

1 male 20-29 1810-1820 = John (b. 1814)

2 females 5-9 1830-1835 = Daughter B
= Daughter A

1 female 20-29 1810-1820 = Harriet (b. 1819/20)

The most obvious explanation for the two girls born 1830-35 is that John had a prior wife (Harriet is too young to have had them with a prior husband).

3. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #32 of 34): Rockland Twp., Venango Co., PA, p. 72B, 225/226, actual enumeration date not given, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

John R Stroup 36 M Far Pa

Harriet 30 F "

Wm A 12 M "

John W 9 M "

Elizabeth 7 F "

Priscilla 5 F "

Almira 4 F "

Jas P 4/12 M "

Geo Webster 23 M Far 400 "

Where's Miranda? Is she really their daughter?

4. 1860 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #16 of 20): Tionesta P.O., Tionesta Twp., Venango [now Forest] Co., PA, Roll M653_1189, p. 643A, PN 156, 1029/1029, enumerated 16 Aug 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

John R Stroup 46 M Lumberman 150 Pa

Harriet   " 42 F New York

John M    " 20 M " Pa

Priscilla " 16 F Housekeeping "

Almira    " 14 F "

Maranda   " 12 F "

Jas P     " 10 M "

Harriet   " 7 F "

Alonzo    " 3 M "

5. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #16 of 21): Tionesta P.O., Borough of Tionesta, Forest Co., PA, Roll M593_1344, p. 57B, PN 4, 34/30, enumerated 3 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Stroup John R 55 M W River pilot 400 150 Pennsylvania

______ Harriet 50 F W Keeping house New York

______ Alonzo W 12 M W at home Pennsylvania

______ Harriet 16 F W at home Pennsylvania

6. 1880 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #4 of 21): Tionesta Twp., Forest Co., PA, Roll T9_1131, p. 2D, PN 4, SD 10, ED 181, enumerated 3/4 Jun 1880, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1880 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1880: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 13 24 25 26

28 29 Stroup John R W M 65 / Farm Laborer PA PA PA

   "   Harriet W F 61 Wife / Keeping House CT CT CT

Hulings Harriet W F 27 Boarder / PA PA CT

   "     Adaline W F 7 / PA PA PA

   "     Mary Ann W F 5 / PA PA PA

   "     Lucy W F 9/12 Aug / PA PA PA

Why do I get the impression Harriet (WEBSTER) STROUP doesn't know where she was born? Harriet HULING is more than a "boarder"; she's their married daughter.

7. 1890 Census: the 1890 Census Population Schedules were destroyed.

8. 1900 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find, though John, at least, was alive and should have been enumerated somewhere.

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