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Caroline Ivy MILES
NOTICE:  a descendant of our subject is participating in the STRAUB Y-chromosome DNA Surname Project.  If you suspect a relationship with this line, you may prove it with a DNA test.
Husband:  Henry STROUP
Birth:  1830, Mt. Clemens, Clinton Twp., Macomb Co., MI
Death:  30 Jun 1898, El Dorado Co., CA
Disposition:  buried El Dorado Cemetery, El Dorado Co., CA
Father:  Samuel STROUP
Mother:  Hannah HALL

It appears from Henry's census records (see below) that he really didn't know where he was born.  In the 1830 census, Henry's father was living in Clinton Twp., Macomb Co., MI, so that is probably where Henry was born; and that place name (i.e., Macomb) is mentioned in Henry's diary as "Nescomb/Necomb."

Marriage:  26 Mar 1874, El Dorado Co., CA; ended in divorce
Wife:  Caroline Ivy "Carrie" MILES
Birth:  Oct 1859, VT
Death:  11 Feb 1922
Disposition:  buried East Lawn Cemetery, Sacramento, Sacramento Co., CA
Occupation:  homemaker
Other Spouse:  m2. 17 Apr 1894, El Dorado Co., CA, Herman KUNZE
Father:  Reuben MILES
Mother:  Sarah __?__
1.  Alice May STROUP, b. 18 Jun 1874, CA
2.  Henry Burdett "Burd/Burt" STROUP, b. 22 Feb 1878, CA 
3.  Bertha Ann STROUP, b. 17 Apr 1880, IN
4.  Charles W. STROUP, b. 30 Mar 1882 or 1883, CA
5.  Frances Louise "Fanny" STROUP, b. 16 Sep 1884, CA
6.  Samuel J. STROUP, b. 30 Jan 1886, CA
7.  George Herman STROUP, b. 12 Oct 1889 or 1890, CA

Year Location Event
1831/2 MI: Macomb Co.: Clinton Twp. birth of Henry STROUP
1836 Michigan to Indiana Henry's parents move
1840 Census IN: Elkhart Co. Henry's parents in residence
1849/50 Indiana to California Henry and brother, Isaac, join California Gold Rush
1850 Census CA: El Dorado Co.: Diamond Spgs. Henry STROUP (brother Isaac also in county)
1857/8 VT birth of Carrie MILES
1860 Census CA: El Dorado Co.: Cosumnes Twp. L/S STROUP 
1870 Census CA: El Dorado Co.: Placerville Henry STROUP
Carrie J. MILES
1874 CA: El Dorado Co. marriage of Henry STROUP & Carrie MILES
1874 CA birth of daughter, Alice
1878 CA birth of son, Henry Burdett
1878-80 California to Indiana family visit
1880 IN birth of daughter, Bertha
1880 Indiana to California family returns home
1880 Census CA: El Dorado Co.: Placerville Henry STROUP, head-of-household
1882/3 CA birth of son, Charles
1884 CA birth of daughter, Frances
1886   birth of son, Samuel
1889/90 CA birth of son, George
1890 Census   entire 1890 census was destroyed
1898   death of Henry STROUP


1.  Marriage Record:

2.  1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #197 of 481 indexed "Huey Stroup" and as being on p. 48):  Diamond Springs, El Dorado Co., CA, Roll 34 (Book 1), p. 348B/694, 4/4, enumerated 31 Sep 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
Robert W Rundell 25 M   Miner 500 Va
Henry Stroup 21 M   "   Unknown
Wm F Tracy 22 M   "   Ky
John E Fletcher 23 M   Carpenter   "
Geo W Miller 23 M   "   "
Henry had to have been 20 or younger, unless the 1830 census is wrong about there being only one child in his parents' household.  The fact that Henry gives younger ages in later censuses (q.v.) suggests that he was not as old as 21 in 1850, but surely he had legal reasons for asserting that he was "of age."  And keep in mind that Henry may not have been the informant, so it may have been up to one of his "roomies" to supply his age and birthplace, which would certainly account for Henry's birthplace being "unknown."  Also in El Dorado County is Henry's brother, Isaac STROUP.  They are the only STROUPs in California making them also the first STROUPs in California. 

3a.  1860 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com):  not found, and I did an all-states search on Henry STRAUB, Henry STRAUP, Henry STROUB, and Henry STROUP.

3b.  1860 Census Images (online at Ancestry.com):  not found, and I did a page-by-page search of Diamond Springs, Diamond Springs Twp., all three Wards of Placerville, Placerville Twp., and Upper Placerville.

3c.  1860 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com, Image #13 of 18 indexed "L. Stroup," but this enumerator's capital L's and S's were indistiguishable):  Cedarville P.O., Cosumnes Twp., El Dorado Co., CA, Roll 58 (Book 1), p. 1172, PN 410, 4361/4361, enumerated 15 Sep 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
L/S Stroup 28 M   Miner 1300   NY
H Pratt 34 M   do  100   Mo
The initial is wrong and there is the usual erroneous (but near to the mark) stab at his birthplace, yet my conclusion is that this is our subject.  I do not find him back in Michigan or Indiana (and I have extracted every STROUP record from those states in the 1860 census), and there are only three STROUPs indexed in California:  this one in El Dorado Co., plus A. STROUP (æ 29, b. OH, wife "N.J." and two children) in Tehama Co. and Abraham STROUP (æ 20, b. Bavaria, unmarried) in Calaveras Co.  We need to keep in mind the "rough-and-tumble" nature of these mining camps and the fact that you never know who was the informant for the record perhaps the Chinese cook in the neighboring tent!

4.  1870 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com, Image #32-33 of 43; online at Ancestry.com, Image #61-62 of 72):  Placerville P.O., City of Placerville, El Dorado Co., CA, Roll 72 (Book 1), pp. 122B-123A, PN 32-33, 428/335, enumerated 5 Aug 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
Miles Reuben 43 M W Farmer 1200 200 Vermont
_____ Sarah 42 F W Keeping House     "
_____ Carrie I/J 12 F W       "
_____ Kate N  9 F W       California
_____ Florence A  7 F W       "
_____ Ulysses G  4 M W       "
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Stroup Henry 39 M W Teamster     Indiana
Lee Ah 30 C W Farm Laborer     China

5.  1880 Census Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #14 of 24 in a group of images mis-labeled "Plainville," which should be "Placerville"):  Placerville Twp., El Dorado Co., CA, p. 138B, PN 14, SD 2, ED 56, enumerated in Jun 1880, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1880 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
1880:  for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 13 24 25 26
178 176 Stroup Henry W M 50   Laber Ohio Ohio Ohio
    ______ Cary W F 23   Housekeping Vermont Neuham Vermont
    ______ Alice W F  6     Cal Ohio Vermont
    ______ Bird W M  2     Cal Ohio Vermont
    ______ Idia W F 2/12 Apr   Indiania Ohio Vermont
"Idia" has to be Bertha Ann heaven only knows what the enumerator thought he was trying to spell.  He left most columns blank for most households.  If "Idia" was born in April in Indiana, they made a very quick trip back to California presumably by rail with an infant in tow.

6.  1890 Census:  the 1890 Census Population Schedules were destroyed.

7.  1900 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com, Image #5 of 53):  Placerville, Placerville Twp., El Dorado Co., CA, Roll 85, p. 154A, SN 3, SD 4, ED 28, enumerated 23-25 Jun 1900, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1900 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
1900:  for an explanation of the column headings, please see What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27
50 50 Kemze? Herman Head W M Jul 1851 48 M 6     Ger Ger Ger 1880 20 Na Gold Miner 2   Y Y Y R H
    ______ Carry Wife W F Oct 1859 40 M 6 9 9 VT VT NH       House Wife     Y Y Y    
    Stroup Charles W St-Son W M Mar 1883 17 S       CA WI VT       Common Laborer 6   Y Y Y    
    ______ Fannie L St-Dau W F Sep 1884 15 S       CA WI VT       At School   8 Y Y Y    
    ______ Geo Herman St-Son W M Oct 1890  9 S       CA WI VT       At School   8 Y Y Y    
    Kemza? Hazal A Dau W F Apr 1895  5 S       CA WI VT             Y Y Y    
    ______ Gladys Dau W F Mar 1897  3 S       CA Ger VT             Y Y Y    
The father of the STROUP children, our subject, was born in Michigan, and surely Hazel's father was Herman KUNZE, who was born in Germany.  It would be no surprise that Carrie would be mistaken as to her late/ex husband's birthplace, because her husband seems to have been uncertain of it, but surely the mistake with Hazel's father is enumerator error.

8.  Messages posted to the Stroup Surname Board (online at Ancestry.com/RootsWeb.com).

9.  Messages in the Stroup Family Genealogy Forum (online at GenForum.com).

10.  Emails from Darrel Carter, including:
Henry and Carrie were divorced.  Carrie married Herman Kunze and had two more children.  Marriage date April 17, 1894, El Dorado, El Dorado County, CA... Carrie Kunze died February 11, 1922 and is buried in East Lawn Cemetery, Sacramento, CA.

11.  Participant in the STRAUB Y-chromosome DNA Surname Project

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