Daniel STROUP & Eve EDICK & Betsey __?_

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Daniel STROUP
Eve EDICK
Betsey __?__

Husband: Daniel STROUP
Birth: 14 Aug 1795, NY
Death: 1870-80, presumably in Columbia, Herkimer Co., NY
Father: William STROUP II
Mother: Mary __?__

Marriage-1: ca. 1814/5
Divorce-1: ca. 1828-30

Wife-1: Ephaw / Ephan / Evank / Eve EDICK
Birth: 20 Dec 1796, Herkimer Co., NY
Death: 11 Mar 1883
Disposition: buried Forest Park Cemetery, Camden, Oneida Co., NY
Father: Jacob Christian ITTIG
Mother: Susan WOHLEBEN

Marriage-2: ca. 1846/7

Wife-2: [Elizabeth] "Betsey" __?__
Birth: 1822/3, NY
Death: either died or remarried by 1870
Other Spouse: m1. Mr. ROUTERNOURDS?
Other Child: Joel ROUTERNOURED?, b. 1845/6, NY

Children with Eve EDICK:

— born in NY, probably in Oneida Co., NY:
1. Jacob STROUP, b. 4 Mar 1816
2. David STROUP, b. 21 May 1818
3. Almy Christine STROUP, b. 4 Mar 1820; d. 19 Sep 1890, Oneida Co., NY; m. John SMITH

— born in Oneida Co., NY:
4. Jonathan W. STROUP, b. 2 Mar 1822
5. William E. STROUP, b. 25 Jul 1825
6. Joshua E. STROUP, b. 31 Oct 1827
7. Elisabeth "Betsy" STROUP, b. 7 Sep 1828; d. 4 Jun 1907, Oneida Co, NY; m. 1846, Charles Giles VANDEWALKER

Jacob is said to have died 2 Jul 1863, but I don't find him living in either the 1850 or 1860 census.

Child with Elizabeth — born in Oneida Co., NY:

8. Philander STROUP, b. 1847/8; d. bef. 1860
9. George STROUP, b. 15 Oct 1854

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Sources (n.b., Stone Arabia is today a village in the town[ship] of Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY — it is not now, nor was it ever, in Herkimer Co.; Montgomery Co. was formed in 1772 from Albany Co.; Herkimer Co. was formed in 1791 from Montgomery Co.):

1. Marriage Record:

2. 1820 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #1 of 8; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1820 NY Oneida Co. Town of Western Roll M33_73 p. 148 Ln. 38 Daniel STROUP 201200-11100-0-002

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

2 males 9 or under 1810-1820 = David (b. 1818)
= Jacob (b. 1816)

1 male 16-18 1801-1804 = ?

2 males 19-25* 1794-1801 = Daniel (b. 1795)
= ?

1 female 9 or under 1810-1820 = Almy (b. 1820)

1 female 10-15 1804-1810 = ?

1 female 16-25 1794-1804 = Eva (b. 1796)

2 persons engaged in manufacture

*In the 1820 Census, the third column is age class 16-18 and the fourth column is age class 16-25; therefore, any individual in column three is duplicated in column four. By subtracting the number in column three from the number in column four, you can create an age class "19-25."

3a. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find Daniel.

3b. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #25 of 26; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1830 NY Oneida Co. Steuben Roll 99 p. 259 Ln. 11 Eve Strop 121 - 110 001

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 4 or under 1825-1830 = Joshua (b. 1827)

2 males 5-9 1820-1825 = William (b. 1825)
= Jonathan (b. 1822)

1 male 10-14 1815-1820 = David (b. 1818)

1 female 4 or under 1825-1830 = Elizabeth (b. 1828)

1 female 5-9 1820-1825 = Almy (b. 1820)

1 female 30-39 1790-1800 = Eve (b. 1796)

Listed three lines above Richard PLATT (æ 60-70), who is listed one line above Samuel PLATT (æ 20-30).

4a. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find Daniel.

4b. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #7-8 of 24; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 NY Oneida Co. Steuben Roll 314 pp. 285B-286A Ln. 20 Eve STROUP 001 010 - 001 001 0200000

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 10-14 1825-1830 = Joshua (b. 1827)

1 male 20-29 1810-1820 = David?

1 female 10-14 1825-1830 = Elizabeth (b. 1828)

1 female 30-39 1800-1810 = Eve (b. 1796)

2 persons employed in agriculture

Eve appears to be fibbing about her age. Listed ten lines from Polly PLATT.

5a. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #7 of 43 — indexed "Denniel"): Steuben, Oneida Co., NY, Roll M432_565, p. 99A, 48/52, enumerated 23 Jul 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Daniel Stroup 50 M Black Smith NY

Betsey Stroup 27 F NY

Joel Routernourds? 4 M NY

Philander Stroup 2 M NY

Joel is indexed "Routernoures," which it could be; there is no such surname, at least, if there is, this is the only record of it online. Presumably, Joel is Betsey's child from her first marriage and Philander is her child with Daniel.

5b. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #7 of 43): Steuben, Oneida Co., NY, Roll M432_565, p. 99A, 50/54, enumerated 23 Jul 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Esra J Platt 27 M Farmer 900 NY

Mary C Platt 21 F NY

Eliza J Platt 10/12 F NY

Polly Platt 65 F NY

Evank Stroup 50 F 1000 NY

Evank/Eve appears to be fibbing about her age. Polly PLATT is Ezra PLATT's mother. Mary C. PLATT may be Eve's niece. Listed next to Eve's married son, Joshua E. STROUP.

6a. 1860 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #65 of 107): Boonville P.O., Town of Boonville (Division 201), Oneida Co., NY, Roll M653_825, p. 711, PN 65, 523/516, enumerated 3 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Daniel Strop 65 M Blacksmith 30 New York

Betsey 33 F Domestic "

George 5 M "

Philander not found.

6b. 1860 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #62 of 71): Florence P.O., Town of Florence, Oneida Co., NY, Roll M653_826, p. 858, PN 62, 503/474, enumerated 20 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Eve STROUP 63 F Lady 1260 NY

Listed next to married daughter, [Elizabeth] "Betsy" (STROUP) VANDERWALKER.

7a. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #16 of 42): Columbia P.O., Town of Columbia, Herkimer Co., NY, Roll M593_942, p. 8B, PN 16, 135/146, enumerated 12 Aug 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Stroup Daniel 74 M W Blacksmith New York

______ David 52 F W Farmer 5000 4000 New York

______ Deborah 51 F W Keeping House New York

______ Daniel 18 M W New York

______ Mary A 16 F W New York

______ Ira 13 M W New York

7b. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #37 of 58 — indexed "Stronp"): Stokes P.O., Town of Florence, Oneida Co., NY, Roll M593_1058, p. 238A, PN 37, 318/318, enumerated 29 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Stroup Eve 73 F W Keeping house New York

Listed next to married daughter, Elizabeth (STROUP) VANDERWALKER.

7c. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #1 of 79 — indexed "George Stemp"): Rome P.O., City of Rome (Ward 5), Oneida Co., NY, Roll M593_1059, p. 641A, PN 1, 7/7, 1 Jun 1870, enumerated 1 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Reese Silas 37 M W Farmer 3500 867 New York

_____ Hannah 34 F W Keeping House Ireland

Stroup George 16 M W New York

Silas is said to be George's uncle, but Silas does not appear to have had a sister, Betsy (or Elizabeth), which suggests Hannah is Betsy's sister.

8a. 1880 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): Daniel not found.

8b. 1880 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #10 of 14): East Florence, Oneida Co., NY, Roll T9_902 (Book 1), p. 204B, PN 10, SD 8, ED 91, enumerated 12/14 Jun 1880, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1880 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1880: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

1 2 3 4 5 6 11 13 24 25 26

105 107 Stroap Eve W F 84 / Keeping house NY NY NY

9. LDS. Family Search: Internet Genealogy Service: AF - Ancestral File (online at FamilySearch.org): David is said to have been born in "Stone Arabia, Herkimer Co., NY," but Stone Arabia is in Montgomery County. So which is correct, the village or the county?

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