Mr. LYON & Nancy A. THORP

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Mr. LYON
Nancy A. THORP

Partner: Mr. LYON — or an INGHAM with a LYON NPE

A patrilineal line male descendant of Nancy's illegitimate son, William H. THORP, has been Y-DNA tested. He is Haplogroup R1b-DF5 and has a 110/111 STR match with the modal haplotype of the Haplogroup R1b-DF5 Middlesex LYON(S). Statistically, he has a 100% probability of being genetically connected to this family within genealogical time (15 generations), a 98.99% probability of being connected within eight generations, and a 78.35% probability of being connected within four generations, the THORPE testee's distance from our unknown subject. If our unknown subject is an INGHAM, he is an INGHAM with a LYON NPE.

Liaison: ca. May 1869

Partner: Nancy A. THORP
Birth: 1848/9, OH
Death apparently: 1892-1900, Cattaraugus Co., NY
Spouse: m. 1875-80, James DANIELS
Father: Willis THORP
Mother: Eunice __?__

Throughout most of her adult life, Nancy appears to have been fibbing about her age — as many women do. Her most accurate ages are probably those in her childhood, in the 1850 and 1860 censuses. Certainly, she was born by 1850 — she's in the 1850 census — so any younger ages cannot be correct.

Child — born in NY:

1. William H. THORP, a.k.a., William H. DANIELS, a.k.a., William H. INGHAM, a.k.a., Herikimer INGHAM, b. 11 Feb 1870

• It's possible, even probable, that William's father was an INGHAM. If so, it would have to be an INGHAM who has an NPE in his patrilineal line. In other words, we are now looking for an INGHAM who is really a LYON. If one such INGHAM is ever Y-DNA tested, he will immediately show up as another tight genetic match with the Middlesex LYONs.

• Descendants say his middle name was known in the family as, "Henry"; however, I can find no records with that middle name. In contrast, we do have a record indicating his middle name was Herkimer, at least as a child. It may be that he deliberately — and understandably — changed it to Henry as an adult.

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Sources (n.b., "towns" in New York were comparable to townships in other states):

1. Marriage Record:

2. 1850 U.S. Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): Nancy THARP (æ 1, b. OH) is living in Monroe Twp., Allen Co., OH, with her parents (q.v.).

3. 1860 U.S. Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): Nancy THORP (æ 11, b. OH) is living in Defiance Twp., Defiance Co., OH, with her widowed mother, plus siblings (q.v.).

4. 1870 U.S. Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #32 of 38): Otto P.O., New Albion [Town], Cattaraugus Co., NY, Roll M593_909, p. 381B, PN 32, 208/294, enumerated 21 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤(•)

1870: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

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208 294 Thorp Jacob 19 M W Laborer Ohio

" Eunice 49 F W Keeping house New York

" Nancy A 14 F W at home Ohio

Herkimer Ingham 2/12 M W at home New York ?

Nancy should be age 21. Given that Nancy's child is surnamed, INGHAM, in the next census, I'm inclinded to believe the enumerator has switched his surname and given name in this census. Enumerators certainly do make mistakes as bad as this one, and this enumerator was definetely sloppy, with barely decipherable handwriting.

5. 1875 New York State Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #10 of 28): Town of Mansfield, Cattaraugus Co., NY, p. 15/510, enumerated 17 Jun 1875, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1875 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤(•)

1875: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

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128 Log 128 Eunice Thorp 74 F Vermont /

Jacob Thorp 24 M Child Ohio / Farm Laborer /

Malissa Thorp 20 F Wife Catt Co /

Willis G M Thorp 6/12 M Child Catt Co

Amasa Ford 46 M Catt Co / Farm Laborer /

Jane Ford 26 F Wife Ohio /

Nancy A Thorp 24 F Child Ohio /

Wm H Ingham 6 M Catt Co

Nancy should be age 26.

6. 1880 U.S. Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #17-18 of 25): Town of Little Valley, Cattaraugus Co., NY, Roll 812, pp. 294A-294B, PN 17-18, SD 11, ED 18, enumerated 14 Jun 1880, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1880 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤(•)

1880: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

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199 211 Thorp Jacob W M 33 / Works on Farm / / OH CT VT

_____ Melissa W F 21 Wife / Keeping House NY NY NY

_____ Hiram W M 5 Son / Attends School NY OH NY

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199 211 Thorp Wm E W M 10/12 July Son / NY OH NY

_____ Eunice W F 77 Mother / / / VT MA MA

Daniels Nancy W F 29 Sister / / / OH CT VT

_______ James W M 40 B-in-law / Works on Farm / / NY ENG IRL

_______ Wm H W M 10 Nephew / attends School / NY NY OH

Nancy should be age 31.

7. 1890 U.S. Census: the 1890 Census Population Schedules were destroyed.

8. 1892 New York State Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #3 of 7): First Dist., Town of Little Valley, Cattaraugus Co., NY, p. 7, official enumeration date 16 Feb 1892 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤(•)

1892: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

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James Daniels M 57 U S C Laborer

Nancy Daniels F 49 " " C

Jacob Thorpe M 44 " " C Laborer

William Thorpe M 23 " " C "

Nancy should only be age 43.

9. 1900 U.S. Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): Nancy not found; James DANIELS is living in Randolph, Cattaraugus Co., NY (q.v.).

10. Public Member Trees (online at Ancestry.com).

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