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Lineages and Results of Y-chromosome DNA Testing for Surname CUPP
and Variations, such as, CUP, COP, COPP, KOP, KOPP, KAP, KAPP, KUP, KUPP, KOPF, ZUPP, etc.
Haplogroup R1b-M269
Results
Hub		 Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
(n = number tested / number of progenitors)		 Project
Home
J2 (n = 1 / 1) R1a (n = 1 / 1) R1b (n = 4/ 4)
R1b is the most common haplogroup in western Europe (please see distribution maps), so it is not surprising that it is the most frequent haplogroup in the CUPP project.  R1b is the haplogroup believed by some to have populated Europe from an Iberian refugium when the last glacial ice sheet retreated about 10-13,000 years ago, however the history of R1b is hotly debated, and research on it is active and ongoing.
Of the many haplotypes represented within R1b, the most common 12-marker haplotype is called the "Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype."  FTDNA members whose 12-marker haplotype matches one of the four most common 12-marker R1b haplotypes will find they have a "WAMH" logo on their member page, along with probably thousands of matches at this level.  The nearer one's results are to the R1b modal (top row in the tables below), the more markers one needs to test to be confident the match isn't just coincidental.  I have standardized on 67 markers for all my projects as the most generally reliable testing level, and it's the minimum in Hg R1b.

Because coincidental matches are such a serious problem in Hg R1b, I recommend anyone in this haplogroup be deep SNP tested by taking the "Geno 2.0 Chip" test (as shown on the "Y-DNA Haplotree and SNPs" tab of your FTDNA member page), as a further way of identifying coincidental matches.  I also recommend joining the Haplogroup 
In biology, a "deme" is defined as "a group of related organisms living in a single location," as would be the case for the European progenitors of our families, so I use this term to designate different families in the project.
So far, four project members are some form of Haplogroup R1b,
each representing a different genetic origin for the surname. 
SNP Haplogroup Deme Earliest Known Ancestor n
R1b-M269 1 Johann Georg KAPP (<1685-<1732) — of Bottenweiler, Wildenholz, Mittelfranken, Bavaria 1
3 Hans KOPP (1620-1712) — Jagstkreis, Württemberg, Germany 1
4 Christian KOPF (1723- ) — Mislag, Ihlienworth, Germany 1
R1b-Z16434 2 William CUPP (1817-1882) — KY > Franklin/Madison Cos., IN > Holt Co., MO 1
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Haplogroup R1b-M269
Deme 1
To view lineage, please scroll to the far right.
Surname Kit# Ysearch
UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
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3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values XQJ7H   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                         
COPP 275415     13 24 14 10 11 11 12 12 12 13 13 29                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Pvt11, Pvt10, Eugene Melvin9, George Franklin8, William F.7, Jacob Marion6, Benjamin5, Michael Georg4 COPP, Andrew3, Joh. Andreas2, Joh. Georg1 KAPP (<1685-<1731/2) — Bottenweiler, Mittelfranken, Bavaria 
Our subject has over a hundred exact or near matches at 12 markers, all in other surnames, which is no surprise in Haplogroup R1b-M269, which is by far the most common haplogroup in western Europe.  However, he has no matches with COPP or variation. 
           
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Deme 3
To view lineage, please scroll to the far right.
Surname Kit# Ysearch
UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
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4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
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G
A
T
A		 IIa
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Y
C
A		 IIb
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Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
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C
D
Y		 b
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C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
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S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
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4
1
3		 b
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4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
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GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values XQJ7H   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                         
KOPP 45767     13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 31   17 9  9 11 11 25 15 19 31 14 15 18 18                                                                                                                                                                                     Pvt11, Pvt10, Frederick William9, John Frederick8, Joh. Martin7, Friedrich6, Friedrich5, Matthaeus4, Joh. Martin3, Matthaeus2, Hans1 KOPP (1620-1712) — of Jagstkreis, Württemberg, Germany
Our subject has no significant matches at any level with surname KOPP or variation.  He has only a few near matches at 25 markers in other surnames (23/25), which are not promising and will most likely fall away as more markers are tested.  While there is no urgency that our subject upgrade his markers, I recommend that he upgrade to 67 markers in anticipation of the day when he finally gets a significant match at 25 markers.
           
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Deme 4
To view lineage, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit# FF Deep
SNP		 Most
Down-
stream
Positive
SNP
Actually
Tested		 Ysearch
UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values XQJ7H   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                               
KOPF 169289           12 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 28                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Pvt... Christian KOPF (1723- ) of Mislag, Ihlienworth, Germany
Our subject has numerous matches at 12 markers, but none in surname KOPF or variation.  He may pick up a match by upgrading to more markers.
           
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Haplogroup R1b-Z16434
FTDNA SNP Path:  R1b-M269 > L150 > L23 > L51 > L151 > P311 > P312 > L21 > DF13 > ZZ10_1 > Z255 > CTS12583 > L159 > Z16434
Deme 2
To view lineage, please scroll to the far right.
Surname Kit# FF Deep
SNP		 Most
Down-
stream
SNP
Actually
Tested		 Ysearch
UserID		   Panel 1 — Standard Markers 1-12   Panel 2 — Standard Markers 13-25   Panel 3 — Standard Markers 26-37   Panel 4 — Standard Markers 38-67   Panel 5 — Standard Markers 68-111   Known Lineage
STR PP3 PP5 MP6 MP7 MP8 MP9 [mixed] MP10 [EA] MP11 [SMGF] MP12 [all new] MP13 [mixed]
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 1B
07
|
GG
AA
T		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
R-P312 Modal Values XQJ7H   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29   17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17   11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12   35 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11    
                                               
CUPP 266562 FF   Z16434     13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 30   15 9  9 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 15 17 17   10 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 38 40 11 12   11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 17 10 12 12 15 8 12 23 20 14 12 11 13 11 11 12 12                                                                                             Pvt5, Pvt4, John Earl3, John Robert2, William1 CUPP (1817-1882) — KY > Franklin Co., IN > Madison Co., IN > Holt Co., MO
Our subject has a common haplotype with over a thousand low level matches — and even some high level ones — all in other surnames.  He has no match, at all, with anyone surnamed CUPP or variation.  While we're waiting for a significant match, I recommend our subject upgrade to 111 markers to gain separation from his near matches at 67 markers.
Our subject has tested just the one SNP:  Z16434, which was positive.
Based on circumstantial evidence, there is a strong probability that out subject's earliest ancestor is one of the KOPP/CUPPs who moved from Mason Co., KY, to Franklin Co., IN.  I urge our subject to seek out a descendant of these CUPPs for Y-DNA testing to find out if you match.
           
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What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them — I'll let you know when you shouldn't!
For 12 markers: 9 or less is a non-relative; for 10-12 markers, please see this table compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers: 21 or less is a non-relative; for 22-25 markers,
For 37 markers: 31 or less is a non-relative; for 32-37 markers,
For 67 markers: 59 or less is a non-relative; for 60-67 markers,
For 111 markers: 100 or less is a non-relative; for 101-111 markers,
For any test:  0 matching markers, please contact NASA.
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