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Patience DWIER |
Husband: James SIAS
Birth: 18 May 1778, Loudon, Rockingham [now Merrimack] Co., NH Death: 23 Mar 1865, West Derby, Orleans Co., VT Disposition: buried West Derby Cemetery, West Derby, Orleans Co., VT Father: Charles SIAS, Sr. Mother: Jane [McCRILLIS?] |
Marriage: 18 Apr 1805, Derby, Orleans Co., VT |
Wife: Patience DWIER
Birth: 1778-84 or 1790/1, NH Death: aft. 1850 A secondary source has Patience dying ca. 1812 in Huntingdon Co., PA, a datum apparently intended to support James's departure from Vermont and his supposed second marriage to Sophia CORBIN (whose supposed siblings lived in Huntingdon Co., PA) and the birth of son, James, in Virginia. But Patience is clearly still alive in 1850 (see 1850 Census below), so these must be two different James SIASes [see family group sheet of James & Sophia (CORBIN) SIAS]. Also casting doubt on the identity of our subjects as the parents of the James SIAS in West Virginia is the 1880 Census, in which this James states his father was born in Virginia and his mother in North Carolina, which not only removes James & Patience from the realm of possibility, but also casts doubt on the supposed origins of James & Sophia. There is also the possibility that Patience died and James remarried — another Patience. The Patience in 1850 is 13 years younger than James. And bearing children from 1805-1837/8 is an extraordinary period of fecundity, though not impossible if Patience was very young when married, which she would have been as she was 13 years younger than James. However, given the apparent age difference between James and Patience and the extraordinarily long span of child births, the best case scenario is that John had a prior wife. So, how dependable is the marriage date to Patience? All I have is a secondary source, and we've seen how unreliable the early work on this family has been. |
Children — born in Derby, Orleans Co., VT: |
1. (Son A) SIAS, b. 1800-1810
. Nancy
SIAS, b. 27 Jan 1805
With at most only four known children born between 1805 and 1830/1, there must be many more children of which we are unaware (the numerical data from the pre-1850 censuses should at least give us the numbers and genders). There is a Sarah SIAS said to have married George W. SMITH and to be the daughter of Charles SIAS, Sr., (i.e., to be sister of our subject, James SIAS), but she is too young to be Charles, Sr.'s daughter, yet too old to be the daughter of Charles SIAS, Jr., who wasn't married until 1808. George and Sarah are living three doors down from James and Patience (DWIER) SIAS in the 1850 Census, and I think it highly likely she is their daughter. Supporting this connection even more strongly is the further fact that George & Sally are on the same page with James & Patience in the 1840 census of Coventry — and James & Patience are the only SIASes in Coventry in 1840. A secondary source has Patience born in Huntingdon Co., PA, which cannot be correct, for reasons given above. |
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Sources:
1. LDS. Family Search: Internet Genealogy Service: AF - Ancestral File (online at FamilySearch.org).
2. LDS. Family Search: Internet Genealogy Service: International Genealogical Index (IGI).
3. 1810 Census Index/Images (this image appears to be missing at Ancestry.com; online at Genealogy.com, but mis-grouped as Image #1 of 1 of Duncansboro; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•
4. Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1820 (Broderbund CD-314): not found. 5. Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 (Broderbund CD-315):
6. Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1840 (Broderbund CD-316):
7. 1850 Census Index/Microfilm (online at GenealogyLibrary.com): Newport, Orleans Co., VT, p. 134A, 88/88, enumerated 29 July 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
8. Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1860 (Broderbund CD-318): not found, but he is likely living with one of his children, especially if Patience had already died (n.b., on this CD, many SIASes were misread and indexed as LIAS). 9. Descendants of John Sias Sr. by Garey L. Marshall. 10. Broderbund. World Family Trees. Vol. 1, Pedigree #4903. |
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