Philip CUPP & Maria Catharina KERSTETTER

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Philip CUPP
Maria Catharina KERSTETTER

WARNING: there's not a good correspondence here between the censuses, themselves, nor between the censuses and the names and dates from secondary sources. This family group sheet needs some additional support.

Husband: Philip CUPP
Birth: 1806-8, PA
Death: 1882
Disposition: buried Liverpool, Perry Co., PA
Occupation: laborer
Father: Jacob CUPP
Mother: [Catharine] "Katie" RHOADS

Marriage:

Wife: Maria Catharina / Mary Catharine "Molly" KERSTETTER
Birth: 1800, PA
Death: 1874
Occupation: homemaker

Children — born in PA, probably in Greenwood [now Susquehanna] Twp., Mifflin [now Juniata] Co., PA:

1. Elizabeth CUPP, b. 1828-30
2. John CUPP, b. 1830/1
3. Joseph CUPP, b. 1830/1
4. Jacob CUPP, b. 1832
5. Eliza CUPP, b. 1833/4
6. Lucy Ann CUPP, b. 1834/5; m. Mr. KELLER
7. Sarah CUPP, b. 1837/8

John and Joseph are said to be twins.

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Sources (n.b., Juniata Co. was formed in 1831 from Mifflin Co.; Susquehanna Twp. was formed in 1858 from Greenwood Twp.):

1. Marriage Record:

2. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #19 of 24; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤

1830 PA Mifflin [now Juniata] Co. Greenwood [now Susquehanna] Twp. Roll 147 p. 406 Ln. 15 Philip Coup 010 020 - 001 110 100

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 5-9 1820-1825 = sibling? son? step-son?

2 males 20-29 1800-1810 = sibling?
= Philip (b. 1806)

1 female 10-14 1815-1820 = sibling? step-daughter?

1 female 15-19 1810-1815 = sibling?

1 female 20-29 1800-1810 = Molly (b. 1800)

1 female 40-49 1780-1790 = mother? mother-in-law? sibling?

Where's Elizabeth? Is this really our subject's household? Obviously, we have more than just a nuclear family in the household, and it's difficult to know just who the members are. Philip is old enough to be the father of the youngest boy, but none of the others, who are most likely either his or Molly's siblings. The middle aged woman could be old enough to be Philip's mother, but only just old enough to be Molly's mother. She could just as easily be an older sibling of either. Molly is old enough to be the mother of both the youngest boy and the youngest girl, which may mean the latter came with her from a previous marriage.

3. 1840 Census Index and Digital Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #3-4 of 16; indexed as "Cap. Philip" — note the period, instead of a comma, which affects your ability to search on the name because you can only pull it up by searching on the surname alone; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 PA Juniata Co. Greenwood [now Susquehanna] Twp. pp. 218B-219A Ln. 3 Philip Cup 020 011 000 - 301 000 100 0200000

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

2 males 5-9 1830-1835 = Jacob (b. 1831/2)
= Joseph (b. 1830/1)
= John (b. 1830/1)

1 male 20-29 1810-1820 = ?

1 male 30-39 1800-1810 = Philip (b. 1806)

3 females 4 or under 1835-1840 = Sarah (b. 1837/8)
= Lucy (b. 1834/5)
= Eliza (b. 1833/4)

1 female 10-14 1825-1830 = Elizabeth (b. 1830)

1 female 40-49 1790-1800 = Mary (b. 1799/1800)

2 persons engaged in agriculture

We should have three males born between 1830 and 1835; Lucy and Eliza are in the wrong age class.

4. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #21 of 44): Greenwood [now Susquehanna] Twp., Juniata Co., PA, p. 342/623, 2040/2070, enumerated 4 Nov 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Phillip Roop 44 M Laborer 200 Penna

Mary Roop 40 F "

John Ropp 19 M Laborer "

Joseph Roop 19 M " "

Jacob Roop 18 M " "

Eliza Roop 16 F "

Lucey Roop 15 F "

Sarah Roop 12 F "

It really is "Roop," not even "Koop." Mary should be 50. Listed next to Michael & Eva (GLACE) STRAUB.

5. 1860 Census Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #328 of 430): Mahontongo P.O., Susquehanna Twp., Juniata Co., PA, p. 796, PN 236, 1632/2, enumerated 2 Aug 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Philip Cupp 53 m Laborer 400 250 Pennsylvania

Molly Cupp 60 f "

Elizabeth Stroap 31 f widow 150 "

Philip 8 m "

Henry 6 m "

Elizabeth is their divorced/deserted daughter; Philip and Henry are Elizabeth's children. Listed next to Michael & Eve (GLACE) STRAUB/STROUP.

6. 1870 Census Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #17 of 23): Mohontongo P.O., Susquehanna Twp., Juniata Co., PA, Roll 1353 (Book 1), p. 370A, PN 17, 115/120, enumerated 15 Aug 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Cupp Philip 62 M W Farmer 800 200 Pa

____ Cathrane 70 F W "

____ Lusy 21 F W Teacher "

Lucy should be age 35. Listed next to Philip STROUP.

7. 1880 Census Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #8 of 30): Dimmsville (Village), [Greenwood Twp.,] Juniata Co., PA, p. 356D, PN 8, SD 7, ED 134, enumerated 5 Jun 1880, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1880 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1880: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 13 14 21 23 24 25 26

60 65 Cupp Jacob W M 47 / Blacksmith PA PA PA

[Jacob's wife and children]

____ Philip W M 75 Father / Retired Laborer 12 PA (Germany) PA

The fact that "Germany" is in parenthesis suggests Philip has some uncertainty as to his father being born in Germany. There were several RHOADS and HUPP families in the neighborhood.

8. WorldConnect (online at RootsWeb.com), where a file cites the next source.

9. Georgeann B. Whelan. 1976. The Cupp Family. Self-published, Ellicott City, MD. [not seen]

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