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Comparison of BigY Tested STRAUBs
Descended from Martin STRAUB of Württemburg
Two members of the STRAUB Y-DNA Surname Project — both genetically matching patrilineal line descendants of Martin STRAUB (1616-1676) of Wuerttemberg — have been BigY tested, namely:
     •  one a descendant of Martin's grandson, Antonius STRAUB (1710-1777), who remained in Wuerttemberg
     •  the other a descendant of Martin's grandson, Johann Pieter STRAUB (1695->1760), who emigrated to Philadelphia, PA, in 1733

Both have submitted their BigY BAM files to YFull.com for analysis to find out if the detailed SNP results and/or the added STR results could aid in identifying lines of descent from their progenitor.  Their results are compared in the tables below.  And, yes, they would be useful in that regard.
As of 30 Jan 2016, their terminal SNP on the YFull Experimental I1 Haplotree is I-Y19048, a subclade including the L592 SNP found for this family on the Walk-through-the-Y test.
As it happens, the FTDNA BigY test actually includes more than SNPs; it returns results for up to 499 STR markers, including the 111 standard markers.  FTDNA does not include these STR results along with the BigY SNP Results, but for a fee, YFull extracts and displays them to individuals.  These STR results are not put on public display by YFull or FTDNA, but they can be viewed and downloaded by the individual.

Bear in mind that one reason FTDNA does not display these markers is that these do not undergo FTDNA's usual quality control process.  There may be errors in these readings.

Not every STR marker gets a "good read," so each person will have somewhat fewer than 499 STR marker results, and because we are testing near relatives, nearly all of our STR values will be the same, just as they were with the standard 111 markers.  It is hoped that, in looking at these added markers, we might find enough variation to separate lines in the family.
UPDATE (30 Jan 2016):  Yes, indeed, these deep SNPs and the additional STRs will be useful in identifying branches of the family!  I urge every male member of the family to please consider taking the BigY test.
genetic genealogy

BigY Tested STRAUBs
FTNDA # YFull# Patrilineal Line Ancestry
26156 YF03846 Pvt5, William Albert4, Albert Roy3, George Washington2, Andrew S.1 STRAUB of PA and Marion Co., OH
111298 YF04714 Pvt11, Pvt10, Otto Ludwig9, Johann Ludwig8, Philipp Dietrich7, Philipp Dietrich6, Georg Michael5, Georg Adam4, Antonius3, Hans Adam2, Martin1 STRAUB of Württemberg
FTDNA Data from BigY "Matching" Tab

Number of Matching SNPs

FTDNA# 26156 111298
26156    26,175
111298 26,175  
 
Number of Shared Novel Variants
FTDNA# 26156 111298
26156   229
111298 229  
 
Number of Known Non-Matching SNPs
FTDNA# 26156 111298
26156   1
111298 1  
 
Known Non-Matching SNPs
FTDNA# 26156 111298
26156   F454
111298 F454
Haplotrees

ISOGG Haplotree (as of 30 Jan 2016)

The ISOGG haplotree is the only one of the major trees still ranking clades hierarchically.
Main SNPs Clade
M170/PF3715 plus many more I
____ M253 plus many more I1
____ DF29/S438 I1a
____ CTS6364/Z2336 I1a1
Z58/S244 I1a2
____ Z59/S246 I1a2a
____ Z60/S337 Z61/S439 Z62 I1a2a1
____ Z140/S440 Z141 I1a2a1a
____ S1953/Z2536 I1a2a1a1
F2642/S2169 I1a2a1a2
A196 I1a2a1a3
This is as far as the tree currently goes down our branch.
 
FTDNA Haplotree
SNPs Clade
M170 M258 P212 P38 L578 L755 L756 L758 L772 L751 I-M170
____ M253 and many others I-M253
____ DF29 I-DF29
____ Z58 I-Z58
____ Z59 I-Z59
____ CTS8647 I-CTS8647
____ Z60 I-Z60
____ Z140 Z141 I-Z140
____ F2642 CTS8691 CTS9191 CTS4963
CTS3521 CTS6739 CTS12971 Z2904 Z4725 		 I-F2642
____ L592 I-L592
 
YFull Experimental Haplotree
SNPs Clade
(191+ SNPs) I
____ (298+ SNPs) I1
____ DF29/S438 V3772/CTS9857 Z2890 V1614/Z2891 Z2891/CTS9848 FGC2477/Y1916 Z2893 I-DF29
____ Z58/S244 I-Z58
____ Z59/S246 I-Z59
____ CTS8647/S1985/Z2894 I-CTS8647
____ Z60/S337 Z61/S439 Z62  I-Z60
____ Z140/S440 Z141 I-Z140
____ S2155/Z2904 S2163/V3243/CTS4963/DF76 S2166/CTS6739 S2169/F2642
Z4723-Z4725 Z3726/CTS3521 CTS8691 CTS9191 CTS12971 		 I-S2169
____ Y1966 CTS6772 I-Y1966
____ BY453 CTS7397 PH2834 I-BY453
____ A6435-A6439 A6441 A6444-A6450 A6452-A6453 L592
Y12181 Y19313-Y19314 Y19048-Y19052 Z7102		 I-Y19048
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YFull Analyses
 
Shared SNPs
Shared + Assumed Shared = All Shared
FTDNA# YFull# 3846 4714
26156  3846   82 + 30 = 112
111298  4714 82 + 30 = 112  
YFull estimates their TMRCA as 450 YBP (range 950 to 200 YBP); actual TMRCA is 275 YBP.
 
Novel SNPs
FTDNA#  YFull# Quality One
Reading		 INDELs
Best Acceptable Ambiguous Low
26156 3846 ChrY: 2888722 YFS486200 T>A
ChrY: 22529161 YFS486258 G>A
ChrY: 22805506 YFS486259 A>G		 0 14 0 0 3
111298 4714 ChrY: 7726499 YFS1142535 T>C
ChrY: 19476261 YFS1142780 G>A
ChrY: 21327441 YFS 1142833 C>T		 ChrY: 28605997 20 0 0 0
Our subjects have seven SNP differences indicating deep SNP testing could be used to identify branches of the family.
 
Private STR Mutations
FTDNA# YFull# STR Ancestral > Derived
26156  3846 DYR139  10 > 9
DYS570 20 > 21
DYS631 10 > 9
111298  4714 DYR33 16 > 17 
DYR46 9 > 8
DYR52 9 > 8
DYR60 18 > 19
DYR162 16 > 17
DYS549 13 > 14
Our subjects each have private SNPs which could be used to identify branches of the family.
 
STR Summary
Total of 499 STRs available for testing.
FTDNA# YFull#   # of
markers
reported		   3846 4714
# cf # diff # cf # diff
26156 3846 494     393 13
111298  4714 496 393 13    
For comparison purposes, YFull counts only those differences where both individuals had a confident returned value.
 
STR Differences — Close Matches (as of 30 Jan 2016)
FTDNA# YFull# STR Marker Differences
DYR DYS
18.2 33 46 52 60 63.1 68.3 130 162 549 570 631 Y-GGAAT-1B07
26156 3846 13 16 9 9 18 11 13 15 16 13 21  9  9
111298 4714 15 17 8 8 19  8  9 16 17 14 20 10 10
Our subjects have 13 confident STR differences indicating STR testing could be used to separate branches of the family.
Some of these values represent private mutations (yellow table cells); the other values are shared with someone outside the family.
 
STR Differences — Distant Matches (as of 30 Jan 2016)
#3846 has 134 distant matches, with genetic differences from 78 to 99.
#4714 has 120 distant matches, with genetic differences from 85 to 103.

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