Elisha Murdock WALL & Lois SAVAGE & Catharine MACK

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Elisha Murdock WALL
Lois SAVAGE
Catharine MACK

Husband: Elisha Murdock WALL
Birth: 27 Dec 1801, VT
Death: aft. 1880 census, presumably in Ontario, Wayne Co., NY
Occupation: farmer
Father: William WALL (1763- )
Wife: Sarah SQUIRE (1766- )

Marriage-1:

Wife-1: Lois SAVAGE
Birth: 1790-1800
Death: 18 Jan 1831
Disposition: bur. Webster Union Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., NY

Marriage-2:

Wife: Catharine "Katie" MACK
Birth: 4 Aug 1799, Wawarsing, Ulster Co., NY
Death: 5 Mar 1871, presumably in Ontario, Wayne Co., NY
Disposition: bur. Webster Union Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., NY
Occupation: homemaker
Father: John Rush MACK
Mother: Sarah KITTLE

Children with Lois SAVAGE:

— born in NY, possibly in Penfield, Monroe Co., NY:
1. (Son A) WALL, b. 1820-25
2. William WALL, b. 1825/6
3. (Son B) WALL, b. 1825-30
4. (Daughter A) WALL, b. 1830

Children with Catharine MACK:

— born in NY, either in Penfield, Monroe Co., NY, or Ontario, Wayne Co., NY:
5. Lois WALL, b. 1833/4
6. Ebenezer WALL, b. 1837/8
7. Alonzo WALL, b. 1840

Other Kin:

. Samuel WALL, b. 1830/1, NY
. Abram WALL, b. 1846/7, NY

Keywords for search engines: genealogy; USA, US, United States, New York, Vermont

Sources (n.b., Monroe Co. was formed in 1821; Wayne Co. was formed in 1823):

1. LDS. Family Search: Internet Genealogy Service: IGI - International Genealogical Index (online at FamilySearch.org).

Elisha M WALL
Wife: Catrina or Caty MACK
Birth: 04 Aug 1799, Wawarsing, Ulster, New York
Death: 05 Mar 1871
Source: patron submission

2. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #45 of 56; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

1830 NY Monroe Co. Penfield Roll 94 p. 348 Ln. 4 Elijah Wall 210 010 - 000 001

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

2 males 4 or under 1825-1830 = Son B
= William (b. 1825/6)

1 male 5-9 1820-1825 = Son A

1 male 20-29 1800-1810 = Elisha (b. 1801)

1 female 30-39 1790-1800 = Lois

3. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #15-16 of 22; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

1840 NY Wayne Co. Ontario Roll 350 pp. 203A-203B/400-401 Ln. 11 Elisha M Wall 102 101 - 011 001 0100000

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 4 or under 1835-1840 = Ebenezer (b. 1837/8)

2 males 10-14 1825-1830 = Son B
= William (b. 1825/6)

1 male 15-19 1820-1825 = Son A

1 male 30-39 1800-1810 = Elisha (b. 1801)

1 female 5-9 1830-1835 = Lois (b. 1833/4)

1 female 10-14 1825-1830 = Daughter A

1 female 30-39 1800-1810 = Catharine (b. 1799)

1 person employed in agriculture

4. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #15 of 54): Town Ontario, Wayne Co., NY, Roll M432_612, p. 109A, 111/111, enumerated 15 Aug 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

Elisha M Wall 48 M Farmer 3000 VT

Catharine " 50 F NY

William   " 24 M Carpenter "

Lois      " 14 F "

Ebinezer " 12 M "

Alonzo    " 10 M "

Abram     " 3 M "

Samuel    " 19 M Labourer "

I find it hard to believe Catharine bore a son at age 47, but if he weren't their son, he should have been listed after Samuel. Is he adopted? Samuel's being listed last and out of chronological order indicates he is not their son, which is supported by there being no son in this age class with them in the 1840 census. One could interpret Samuel being listed last as him being Elisha's son from a former marriage, but we know William is such, and he was not listed after Catharine's children.

5. 1860 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #46 of 59): Ontario P.O., Ontario, Wayne Co., NY, Roll M653_876, p. 636, PN 46, 366/358, enumerated 10 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

Elisha Wall 58 M Farmer 2700 848 Vermont

Catharine " 60 F New York

Ebenezer " 21 M do

Alonzo " 18 M do

Abram " 14 M do

6. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #4 of 58 — our subject is indexed "Harkins"): Webster P.O., Ontario Co., Wayne Co., NY, Roll M593_1112, p. 318B, PN 4, 25/25, enumerated 20 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

Wall Elisha M 68 M W Farmer 5000 1500 Vermont

____ Katie 70 F W Keeping House New York

____ Ebenezer 32 M W Farmer New York

Haskins Warren 37 M W Farm Laborer New York

_______ Louis 35 F W Keeping House New York

_______ Lillie 7 F W At School New York

_______ Harriet 5 F W At School New York

"Louis" should be "Lois" — she's their married daughter, and Warren HASKINS/HOSKINS is their son-in-law.

7. 1880 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): Elisha WALL (æ 78, VT/VT/VT) is living in Ontario, Wayne Co., NY (p. 304B), with an assortment of roomers and hired help, none of whom appear to be kin.

8. 1890 Census: the 1890 Census Population Schedules were destroyed.

9. Messages posted to the Wall Family Genealogy Forum (online at GenForum.com).

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