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Judge Abraham VENABLE
Mary MORTON
Husband:  Abraham VENABLE
Birth:  ca. 1760, Charlotte Co., VA
Death:  30 Jun 1831, Lexington, Fayette Co., KY
Occupation:  Judge
Father:  James VENABLE
Mother:  Judith MORTON
Marriage:  4 Aug 1783, Caroline Co., VA
Wife:  Mary MORTON
Birth:  ca. 1764
Death:  Lexington, Fayette Co., KY
Father:  Samuel MORTON
Mother:  Mary Ann MOORE
Children:
— said to be born in VA:
.  Samuel VENABLE, b. 1784

— said to be born in Fayette Co., KY:
.  Abraham VENABLE, b. 1786
.  (Daughter A) VENABLE, b. 1784-94
.  Hampden Sydney VENABLE, b. 1792; m. 7 Oct 1817, Madison Co., KY, Amelia GOGGIN
George VENABLE, b. 1797/8 
.  (Daughter B) VENABLE, b. 1800-1810
.  (Daughter C) VENABLE, b. 1800-1810
.  (Son A) VENABLE, b. 1804-1810 — presumably, this is James VENABLE

These last three are really stretching Mary's span of fecundity beyond reason.  Did Abraham have a second, younger wife?  Or are the young children with Abraham in the 1820 census his grandchildren?
?  (Son B) VENABLE, b. 1810-1820
?  (Daughter D) VENABLE, b. 1810-1820
?  (Daughter E) VENABLE, b. 1810-1820

Hampden Sydney, apparently named for his grandfather's alma mater, Hampden Sydney College, is in his 30s in the 1830 census; he is not found in later censuses.


Sources (n.b., Fayette and Madison Cos., KY, are adjacent):

1a.  Jordan R. Dodd, ed.  1993.  Virginia Marriages:  Early to 1850.  Liahona Research, Orem, UT (Broderbund CD-229; online at Ancestry.com):
Venable, Abraham Morton, Mary 4 Aug 1783 Charlotte Co.

1b.  Jordan R. Dodd, ed.  1993.  Kentucky Marriages:  Early to 1850.  Liahona Research, Orem, UT (Broderbund CD-229):
Venable, Hampden Sidney Goggin, Amelia 7 Oct 1817 Madison Co.

2.  LDS.  Family Search: Internet Genealogy Service:  IGI - International Genealogical Index (online at FamilySearch.org).
Samuel VENABLE
Birth: 1784, Louisa, Virginia
Father: Abraham VENABLE; Mother: Mary MORTON
Source: patron submission
Abraham VENABLE
Birth: 1786, Fayette, Kentucky
Father: Abraham VENABLE; Mother: Mary MORTON
Source: patron submission
George VENABLE
Birth: 1798, Fayette, Kentucky
Father: Abraham VENABLE; Mother: Mary MORTON
Source: patron submission

3.  Census Index:  Colonial America, 1607-1789 (Broderbund CD-310):
1787 Tax List Venable, Abraham KY Fayette Co.
1788 Tax List Venable, Abraham KY Fayette Co.

4.  Census Index:  U.S. Selected Counties, 1790 (Broderbund CD-311):  the 1790 VA/KY censuses were destroyed, but some KY tax lists are substituted on the CD.
1790 Tax List Venable, Abram KY Fayette Co.
Abraham is the only VENABLE in KY, on this CD.

5.  Anon.  1991.  The 1795 Census of Kentucky [as constructed from tax lists].  T.L.C. Genealogy, Miami Beach, FL (said to include every extant tax list from the state of Kentucky for the year 1795):
Pg Name County
180 Venable, Abram Fayette
180 Venable, Abram B Fayette
180 Venable, Samuel Fayette
These appear to be our subject and his two eldest sons; they are the only VENABLEs in KY (at least, in this book).

6.  Census Index:  U.S. Selected Counties, 1800 (Broderbund CD-312):  the 1800 VA/KY censuses were destroyed, but some KY tax lists are substituted on the CD.
1800 Tax List Venible, Abraham KY Fayette Co.
The only other VENABLE in KY on this CD is Joseph VENABLE in Logan Co., KY.  Is this Abraham's brother?  Logan County was, then, adjacent to Christian County, where two of Abraham's sons ended up.

7.  1810 Census Index and Digital Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #6 of 40; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
1810 KY Fayette Co. p. 788 Ln. 21 Abraham Venible 02201-20101-0/12/
These data indicate:
No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred
2 males 10-15 1794-1800 = George (b. 1798)
= Hampden (b. 1792)
2 males 16-25 1784-1794 = Abraham (b. 1786)
= Samuel (b. 1784)
1 male 45 or over in or bef. 1765 = Abraham
2 females 9 or under 1800-1810 = Daughter C
= Daughter B
1 female 16-25 1784-1794 = Daughter A
1 female 45 or over in or bef. 1765 = Mary
12 slaves all ages in or bef. 1810 = ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Either Hampden is in the wrong age class or we have his birthyear wrong; the 1830 census indicates he was born in the 1790s.

8.  1820 Census Index and Digital Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #44 of 57; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):
1820 KY Fayette Co. Lexington p. 121 Ln. 10 Abraham Venable 110101-21010-0-300 1101-5230
These data indicate:
No., Race, Gender  Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred
1 white male 9 or under 1810-1820 = (Grand?) Son? B
1 white male 10-15 1804-1810 = Son A
1 white male 19-25* 1794-1801 = George (b. 1798)
1 white male 45 or over in or bef. 1775 = Abraham 
2 white females 9 or under 1810-1820 = (Grand?) Daughter? E
= (Grand?) Daughter? D
1 white female 10-15 1804-1810 = Daughter B or C
1 white female 26-44 1775-1794 = Daughter A (or 2nd wife?)
3 people engaged in agriculture
1 male slave 13 and under 1806-1820 = ?
1 male slave 14-25 1794-1806 = ?
1 male slave 45 or over in or bef. 1775 = ?
5 female slaves 13 and under 1806-1820 = ? ? ? ? ?
2 female slaves 14-25 1794-1806 = ? ?
3 female slaves 26-44 1775-1794 = ? ? ?
*In the 1820 Census, the third column is age class 16-18 and the fourth column is age class 16-25; therefore, any individual in column three is duplicated in column four.  By subtracting the number in column three from the number in column four, you can create an age class "19-25."

9.  Census Index:  U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 (Broderbund CD-315):  can't find, at least, not in this index.

10.  James Walter Allen.  1982.  "Morton Family of Henrico, Prince Edward, and Brunswick Counties, Virginia."  Pages 805-815 in Genealogies of Virginia Families: from the William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine.  Genealogical Publ. Co., Baltimore, MD (Broderbund CD-186):
p. 807 6 Samuel3 Morton... married Ann Moore daughter of George Moore of Amelia Co...
10 Mary4Morton born circa 1763 married Judge Abraham Venable in 1783 and soon afterwards moved to Lexington Kentucky.

11.  Joseph J. Casey. 1982. "Genealogy of the Venable Family, as Prepared by Nathaniel Venable, of Prince Edward County, Va., Dated December 25, 1790."  Pages 308-311 in Genealogies of Virginia Families: from the William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine.  Genealogical Publ. Co., Baltimore, MD (Broderbund CD-186):
p. 310 James, the son of Abraham the second, married to Judith Morton, daughter of Joseph Morton, of Charlotte county, has issue sons, Abraham, Joseph, Samuel, James, and daughters Agnes, married to William Mahone, of Prince Edward county; Elizabeth Jane, Mary Ann married to Dr. George Lynn, of Charlotte county; Frances; and Martha Davis. Abraham, son of James, married to Mary Morton, daughter of Samuel Morton, of Charlotte county, has issue sons, Samuel and James...
Why no mention of George?  Is George really this Abraham's son?

12.  Mary Stuart Green Edmunds.  1982.  "Edmunds Family."  Pages 642-669 in Genealogies of Virginia Families: from the William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine.  Genealogical Publ. Co., Baltimore, MD (Broderbund CD-186):
p. 659 Among the children of James & Judith Morton Venable was Abraham Venable who married Sally Morton, daughter of Samuel Morton and Mary Moore Morton.  One of the children of Abraham and Sally Venable was Dr. George Venable...

13.  Messages posted to the Venable Family Genealogy Forum (online at GenForum.com).

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