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Winthrop COLBATH
?Sarah SINCLAIR? ?Nancy STROOPE? |
WARNING: there are some serious
anomalies with this family group sheet as compiled by/from secondary sources.
I'm doing my best to sort this out with primary documentation, but with
little success so far. I strongly recommend that you accept nothing
without documentation.
1) Many secondary sources give our subject the birth date and place of 7 Apr 1787, Natick, Middlesex Co., MA, but this is a different Winthrop COLBATH son of Winthrop COLBATH, Sr. (1751-1831), & Hannah ROLLINS (1750- ) of Strafford Co., NH. This Winthrop was born in Rochester, Strafford Co., NH, not Natick; he died in Natick in 10 Feb 1860, which is why he's buried there. (These dates are apparently from a tombstone in Natick see source below.) A relative of this other Winthrop was Vice-President of the United States, which seems to have encouraged people to make a connection to him. 2) The Nancy STROOPE who married Winthrop COLBATH is said to have been born ca. 1800, the daughter of George H. STROOPE. The problem is, Winthrop's wife in the 1830 census was a woman in her 40s (i.e., born 1780-90). Her age is confirmed in the 1840 census where she is in her 50's (i.e., again born 1780-90). George H. STROOPE was married in March of 1789 (date solidly documented), so it's possible for Nancy to be his first child and, thus, born 1789/90, but we need to revise her birth year. Nancy's age does raise the question as to whether she is George's daughter. I have, in fact, found nothing to document Nancy's parentage (or her marriage to Winthrop), at all. Where does her identity come from? I will try to find further documentation for this page, but in the meantime,
consider this a very tentative first draft.
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Husband: Winthrop COLBATH / CULBREATH
Birth: 1784/5, MA Death: 1860-70, presumably in Gillespie Co., TX Father said to be: Benjamin COLBATH (1758- ) Mother said to be: Mary "Polly" BICKFORD (1766- ) |
Marriage-1: |
Wife-1 said to be: Sarah SINCLAIR
Birth said to be: 1788 Death said to be: 1816 |
Marriage-2 said to be: 1819 or 1823, Clark Co., AR |
Wife-2 said to be: Nancy STROOPE
Birth: 1780-90 or 1789/90 Death: 1840-50 Father said to be: George H. STROOPE Mother said to be: Sarah RAY If she is George's daughter, she was born 1789/90 because he was married in 1789. |
Children with Sarah SINCLAIR said to be: |
1. Shepherd Joseph COLBATH, b. 1808
2. Sarah "Sally" COLBATH, b. 1810 3. Olive COLBATH, b. 1816, Clark Co., AR |
Children with Nancy STROOPE born in Clark Co., AR said to be: |
4. John C. COLBATH, b. 3 May 1820_or
1819-26 {1850: 27, AR; 1860: 36,
AR; 1870: 50, AR; 1880: 60,
AR}; d. 9 Apr 1898, Stonewall, Gillespie Co., TX; m. 24 Oct 1847,
Clark Co., AR, Martha Matilda "Patsy" NEEL (1830-1901)
5. Elizabeth COLBATH, b. 1826/7; d. 11 Dec 1864, Austin, Travis Co., TX 6. Lucinda COLBATH, b. 1833/4; d. 3 Jul 1909, San Marcos, Hays Co., TX With regard to John's birth date Dates on tombstones are very reliable for date of death, but very unreliable for the date of birth. The census records are more contemporary and more first-hand, so are more likely to be correct, especially the earliest one(s). The parents always know better than the child when and where the child was born and the grandchildren ordering a tombstone know least of all when and where their deceased parent was born, even assuming the parent was not fibbing about their age later in life (lowering it in middle age and inflating it when elderly). |
Data in braces are {year: age,
birthplace} from the censuses.
Keywords for search engines: genealogy; USA, Arkansas, Massachusetts, Texas |
Sources:
1. Marriage Record: 2a. Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1810 (Broderbund CD-313): not found, and there is an Arkansas Territorial census indexed on this CD, but our subject was not listed. 2b. 1810 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): not found, and Louisiana records are included, but the Arkansas Territorial census is not indexed here, nor are the images available. 3. 1820 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): not found, which means he was presumably in Arkansas Territory because there was no census in 1820 in Arkansas Territory while there was one in Louisiana. 4. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #3 of 6; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
5. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #2-3 of 6 numerical data pages precede name pages; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
6. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #15 of 52): Bastrop Co., TX, Roll M432_908, p. 159, 108/114, enumerated 3 Sep 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
7. 1860 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #2 of 10): Grape Creek P.O., Precinct No. IV, Gillespie Co., TX, Roll Roll M653_1295, p. 27A, PN 53, 442/427, enumerated 28 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤
8. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): not found. 9. Ronald V. Jackson. 1999. Arkansas Census, 1819-70. Accelerated Indexing Systems (online at Ancestry.com):
10. Thomas W. Baldwin. 1910. Vital Records of Natick, Massachusetts, to the Year, 1850. Stanhope Press, F.H. Gilson Co., Boston, MA (online at the NEHGS):
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