Moses STROUP & Hester Amelia ALEXANDER & Permelia RICHARDS

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Moses STROUP
Hester Amelia ALEXANDER
Permelia RICHARDS

WARNING: Secondary sources do not agree on the wife/wives of our subject. One source is adamant that his wife was Hester Amelia RICHARDS, d/o Benjamin Walker RICHARDS and Wilmoth Crippin ALEXANDER. I'm wondering... Have secondary sources split one wife into two? Amelia is a short form of Permelia, so is his one wife really Hester Permelia/Amelia Alexander RICHARDS?

Husband: Moses STROUP
Birth: 12 Oct 1794, Lincoln Co., NC
Death: 31 Mar 1878, Shelby Co., AL
Disposition: buried Spring Creek Cemetery, Shelby Co., AL
Occupation: ironmaster
Father: Jacob STROUP II
Mother: Elizabeth "Betsy" DELLINGER

Marriage-1:

Wife-1: Hester Amelia ALEXANDER
Kin(?): Thomas ALEXANDER, b. 1815/6, SC

Marriage-2: 30 Jan 1831

Wife-2: Permelia RICHARDS
Birth: 1812/3, SC
Death apparently: 1850-60, presumably in Bartow Co., GA
Occupation: homemaker

Child with Hester ALEXANDER:

1. Nathaniel STROUP, b. 1821/2, TN; said to have died in the Civil War

Children with Permelia RICHARDS:

2. Emily Teresa STROUP, b. 1832; d. 1834

— born in Spartanburg Co., SC:
3. Susan Wilmoth STROUP, b. 13 Aug 1834; d. 7 Nov 1904, Ensley, Jefferson Co., AL; m. 7 Oct 1862, Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa Co., AL, Pleasant A. HICKMAN
4. Alonzo Alexander STROUP, b. 19 Nov 1836
5. Sarah Ann STROUP, b. 15 May 1839; d. 14 Mar 1892, Shelby Co., AL; m. Marshall Ney ALEXANDER
6. Esther / Hester Amelia STROUP, b. 1841/2

— born in Cass [now Bartow] Co., GA:
7. Mary Elizabeth STROUP, b. 6 Aug 1842; d. Aug 1887, Shelby Co., AL; m. Monroe WARD (1845-1881)
8. Henry Rush STROUP, b. 1845; d. 5 May 1863, VA [Civil War casualty]
9. Andrew Moses STROUP, b. 1847; d. 16 Jan 1864, CSA Hospital, Selma, Dallas Co., AL [Civil War casualty]
10. Margaret Ellen STROUP, b. 18 May 1849; d. 26 Sep 1931, Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa Co., AL; m. Mr. MANRING
11. Laura Euphemia STROUP, b. 13 Sep 1852; d. 19 Feb 1853

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Sources (n.b., Cass Co. was formed in 1832 from Habersham and Hall Cos., the name was changed to Bartow in 1861):

1. Marriage Record:

2. 1820 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): not found, but the census was lost in 22 of Tennesee's 48 counties.

3. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #73 of 218; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1830 SC Spartanburg Co. Roll 171 p. 258 Ln. 1 H Hogan & M Stroup 000 010 100 - 000 000 000 no slaves

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 20-29 1800-1810 = Moses or H. Hogan

1 male 40-49 1780-1790 = Moses or H. Hogan

Moses should be in his 30s, but he also should be a widower (or divorcé?) at this point. So, given that he is in Spartanburg County in 1840, this probably is our subject. Apparently his son, Nathaniel, is with other kin.

4. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #175-176 of 206; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 SC Spartanburg Co. North of Pacolet River &
the North Fork of the same Roll 515 pp. 152B-153A Ln. 26 Moses Straub 100 000 100 - 110 010 010 110000-111000 0001000

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 white male 4 or under 1835-1840 = Alonzo (b. 1836)

1 white male 40-49 1790-1800 = Moses (b. 1794)

1 white female 4 or under 1835-1840 = Sarah (b. 1839)

1 white female 5-9 1830-1835 = Susan (b. 1834)

1 white female 20-29 1810-1820 = Permelia (b. 1812/3)

1 white female 50-59 1780-1790 = Mother-in-law?

1 male slave 9 or under 1830-1840 = ?

1 male slave 10-23 1816-1830 = ?

1 female slave 9 or under 1830-1840 = ?

1 female slave 10-23 1816-1830 = ?

1 female slave 24-35 1804-1816 = ?

1 persons employed in manufacture and trades

Moses's son, Nathaniel, is still not living with him. Listed three lines from Levy STRAUP [Levi STROUP].

5. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #112 of 246 — indexed "Shoup"): 12th Division, Cass [now Bartow] Co., GA, Roll M432_63, p. 155B, 783/790, enumerated 19 Sep 1850 (by Alonzo Stroup), official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Moses Stroup 56 M Manufacturer 3000 NC

Permela   " 37 F SC

Susan W   " 16 F "

Alonzo A " 13 M "

Sarah     " 11 F "

Amelia    " 9 F "

Mary E    " 7 F Ga

Henry     " 5 M "

Andrw M   " 3 M "

Margaret " 1 F "

Nathaniel " 28 M Physician Tenn

Nathaniel is Moses's son from his first marriage. Listed next to Moses's widowed step-mother, Sarah (JENNINGS) STROUP.

6. 1860 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #39 of 87): Mars [Marrs] P.O., West Side of Cahaba River, Bibb Co., AL, Roll M653_2, p. 684B, PN 40, enumerated 6 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

263 256 Moses Stroup 65 M Manufacturer 1,800 N Carolina

Susan do 25 F Domestic S Carolina

Sarah do 20 F do do

Eastha do 18 F do

Mary E do 16 F Georgia

Henry B do 14 M do

Andrew M do 12 M do

Margaret do 10 F do

257 Alonzo Stroup 23 M Bookkeeper S Carolina

Mary do 19 F Domestic do

William Veach 16 M Machinery Moulder Alabama

Peter Warren 40 M do do Pa

Thos Alexander 44 M Manufacturer 10,000 S Carolina

7. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #24 of 32): Montevallo P.O., "Beat No. 1," Shelby Co., AL, Roll 593_39, p. 405B, PN 24, 163/163, enumerated 29 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Hambury/Hansbury John W 47 M W Farmer 500 Virginia

   "    Hester 23 F W Keeping House South Carolina

   "    Henry 6 M W Alabama

   "    Andrew 4 M W Alabama

   "    John 2 M W Alabama

Ward Thomas 18 M B works on farm Alabama

Perry Nelson 13 M B "   "   " Alabama

Stroup Moses 75 M W Mill Eight North Carolina

   "   Mollie 22 F W School Teacher Georgia

   "   Ellen 20 F W At Home Georgia

8. Messages (and photos) posted to the STROUP Surname Board (online at RootsWeb.com/Ancestry.com).

9. WorldConnect / Ancestry World Trees (online at RootsWeb.com/Ancestry.com).

10. Email from Joyce Graham.

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