Elisha STROUP & Jane M. McGINNIS & Liza Ann __?_

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Elisha STROUP
Jane M. McGINNIS
Liza Ann __?__

NOTICE: a patrilineal descendant of our subject is participating in the STRAUB Y-chromosome DNA Surname Project. Anyone who suspects he descends from our subject on a direct male line can support that connection with a DNA test. We do not yet know the true identity of Elisha's parents, but his DNA test results prove he is descended from Jacob STROUP I (1722-1804/5) of Lincoln [now Gaston] Co., NC.

Husband: Elisha STROUP
Birth: 1810-12, NC
Death: 1893
Occupation: farmer, iron worker
Y-DNA Haplogroup: I1-AS5

Elisha is said to be the son of these parents, but he cannot be because Jacob's descendants are Y-DNA Haplogroup J2.
People in different haplogroups cannot have shared a common ancestor for thousands of years.
Father not: Jacob STROUP II (1771-1846)
Mother not: Hannah HOYLE (1763-1820)

Marriage-1: 11 Feb 1830, Lincoln Co., NC

Wife-1: Jane M. McGINNAS / McGINNIS
Birth: 1811/2, NC
Occupation: homemaker

Wife-2:

Wife-2: Liza / Eliza Ann __?__
Birth: 1817/8, NC
Occupation: homemaker

Children with Jane McGINNIS:

— born in Spartanburg Co., SC:
1. Caroline STROUP, b. 1833/4
2. Susan STROUP, b. 1836/7
3. John STROUP, b. 1838/9
4. Mary "Polly" STROUP, b. 1841/2

— born in Cass [now Bartow] Co., GA:
5. Margaret STROUP, b. 1844/5
6. Irene / Irena STROUP, b. 1848/9
7. Aaron STROUP, b. May 1852
8. Malissa / Melissa STROUP, b. 1855/6

Children with Liza Ann:

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Sources (n.b., the name of Cass Co. was changed to Bartow in 1861):

1. Jordan R. Dodd, ed. 1993. KY, NC, TN, VA, WV Marriages: Early to 1850. Liahona Research, Orem, UT (Broderbund CD-229):

Stroup, Elisha Mcginnas, Jane M. 11 Feb 1830 Lincoln Co.

2. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find, but as newlyweds, they are likely living with either his parents or hers. There is an Elisha STROUP in Lincoln Co., NC, but he is a man in his 40s, so is too old to be our subject.

3. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #195-196 of 206 — indexed "Straup"; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 SC Spartanburg Co. North of Pacolet River &
the North Fork of the same Roll 515 pp. 163 Ln. 10 Elisha Stroup 100 010 - 111 010 010000-00000 0200000

These data indicate:es

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 white male 4 or under 1835-1840 = John (b. 1838/9)

1 white male 20-29 1810-1820 = Elisha (b. 1810-12)

1 white female 4 or under 1835-1840 = Susan (b. 1836/7)

1 white female 5-9 1830-1835 = Caroline (b. 1833/4)

1 white female 10-14 1825-1830 = ?

1 white female 20-29 1810-1820 = Jane (b. 1811/2)

1 male slave 10-23 1816-1830 = ?

2 persons employed in agriculture

The teenage girl is too old to be their child.

4. 1850 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #58 of 241): Division 12, Cass [now Bartow] Co., GA, Roll M432_63, p. 128B, 407/407, enumerated 31 Aug 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Elisha Stroup 39 M Farmer NC

Jane      " 38 F "

Caroline " 16 F SC

Susan     " 13 F "

John      " 11 M "

Polly     " 8 F "

Margaret " 5 F Ga

Irena     " 1 F "

5. 1860 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #12 of 48): Cartersville P.O., 4th Dist., Cass [now Bartow] Co., GA, Roll M653_114, p. 727B, PN 105, 736/710, enumerated 15 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

E Stropp 44 M Day laborer 250 150 SC

J    " 43 F NC

J/I " 10 F Ga

A    " 8 M "

M    " 7 F "

Listed next to married son, J. STROPP [John STROUP].

6. 1870 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #27 of 33): Gaylesville P.O., T9_.R10_, Cherokee Co., AL, Roll 7, p. 312A, PN 21, 149/149, enumerated 23 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Strop Elisha 65 M W works for Iron Works 250 150 North Carolina

" Aron 18 M W " Georgia

7. 1880 Census Every-Name-Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #1 of 15): Wolf Run, Georgia Militia District No. 1041, Bartow Co., GA, Roll T9_134 (Book 1), p. 546B, PN 22, SD 1, ED 9, enumerated 11/12 Jun 1880, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1880 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1880: for an explanation of the column headings, please see
What the Numbers in the Federal Census Mean (missing columns contained no data).

1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 13 22 23 24 25 26

195 195 Stroup Elisha W M 68 Husband / Farmer / / NC NC NC

______ Lizarann W F 62 Wife / Keeping House / NC NC NC

______ Malesia W F 24 Dau / at Home / / GA NC NC

Put a heavy southern drawl on "Liza Ann," and you'll come up with Elisha's wife's name as phonetically spelled here. "Malesia" is most likely, "Malissa." Listed between sons John STROUP and Aaron STROUP.

8. 1890 Census: the 1890 Census Population Schedules were destroyed.

9. WorldConnect / Ancestry World Trees (online at RootsWeb.com/Ancestry.com).

10. Messages posted to the STROUP Surname Board (online at RootsWeb.com/Ancestry.com).

11. Email from descendant.

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