| Peter STROUP
Rosanna KOSER |
| NOTICE: a descendant of our subject is a participant in the STRAUB Y-chromosome DNA Surname Project. |
| Husband: Peter STRAUB / STROUP / STRAUP
Birth: 1765-75 (said to be 1768) Death: 1 Apr 1830, Perry Co., PA Disposition: buried Union Cemetery, Blain, Jackson Twp., Perry Co., PA Y-DNA Haplogroup: I1b2 DNA match with: Theobald STRAUB (b. ca. 1770s) Secondary sources have asserted that our subject is Johann Peter STROUP (b. 1760), son of (Mathias) Andreas STROUP & Catharina DELONG, but if (Mathias) Andreas is truly a son of 1733 immigrant Johann Pieter STRAUB, DNA differences make our subject's connection to (Mathias) Andreas impossible because Johann Pieter's descendants are Haplogroup I1a. The alternative is that (Mathias) Andreas is not Johann Pieter's son, and there is an argument to be made for that case (because, among other things, all of Johann Pieter's other presumed sons have saint's name Johann). DNA testing does prove that our subject is related to Theobald/Dewald STRAUB, who may be a grandson of Andreas STRAUB & Anna Catharina SPRINGER. Secondary sources name our subject, "John Peter," but I have found no primary record calling our subject John or John Peter; I have found him only as Peter. Nor have I found him in any record surnamed STRAUB, but we know either he or his father or grandfather must have started out a STRAUB, especially given the proven connection to Theobald. |
| Marriage: |
| Wife: Rosanna / Rosina KOSER
Birth: possibly 1770-75, certainly by 1779, Berks Co., PA Baptism: 15 Jun 1779, Bethel Stone Church, Greenwich Twp., Berks Co., PA Death: 27 Mar 1864, Perry Co., PA Disposition: buried Union Cemetery, Blain, Jackson Twp., Perry Co., PA Father: Johannes / John KOSER (1745/6-1813) Mother: Gertraut / Gertrout / Gertrude WALBERT |
| Children: |
| — born in PA:
1. Susanna "Susan" STROUP, b. 1796-98 2. Henry STROUP, b. 1790s; died young? [not in household in 1810] — or is he "Son A"? 3. John STROUP, b. 1794-1800; left home by 1830; d. Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY 4. William STROUP, b. 1801-1804; left home by 1830, possibly to Canada 5. Mary "Polly" STROUP, b. 18 May 1805 6. Jacob STROUP, b. 15 May 1807 — born in Cumberland [now Perry] Co., PA:
— born in Toboyne [now Madison] Twp., Perry Co., PA:
There is no John STROUP (or variation) in the 1830-50 censuses of Brooklyn, though there is one in Rochester, NY (b. 1803/4, PA). |
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| Sources (n.b., Perry Co. was formed in 1820 from Cumberland
Co.; Madison Twp. was formed in 1836 from Toboyne Twp.; Jackson Twp. was
formed in 1844 from Toboyne Twp.):
1. LDS. Family Search: Internet Genealogy Service: AF - Ancestral File (online at FamilySearch.org).
2. 1790 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): not found. Peter was old enough to be married by 1790, but Rosanna wasn't. The fact that Peter does not show up as head-of-household suggests that he was either single or widowed at this point, though he could have been married; either way, he is obviously living with a family where someone else is head-of-household. 3. 1800 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com): can't find, but it is not uncommon for a young married couple (or widower) to be living with kin. 4. 1810 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #6 of 11; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•
5. 1820 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #6 of 7 — not indexed; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•
Thank you to Rita Rogers Nowack for alerting me that this Peter STROUP is our subject. 6. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com, Image #15 of 28 — indexed "Rsanah Stran Jr"; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•
7. 1840 Census Index and Digital Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #9-10 of 14; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•
8. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #12 of 22 — Rosanna was missed in the index): Jackson Twp., Perry Co., PA, p. 343A, 87/89, enumerated 14 Sep 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•
9. 1860 Census Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #178 of 593): Plain P.O., Jackson Twp., Perry Co., PA, p. 508, 333/330, PN 46, enumerated ___, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•
10a. Wills: Abstracts 1803-1809: Will Book G: Cumberland Co, PA (online in the USGenWeb Archives; contributed by Thera Schwenk-Hammond):
10b. Wills: Abstracts 1809-1817: Will Book H: Cumberland Co, PA (online in the USGenWeb Archives; contributed by Thera Schwenk-Hammond):
11. Excerpt of family information written by Samuel L. STROUP, grandson of our subjects (courtesy of Rita Rogers Nowack):
12. Robert L. Stroup. 1993. One Consanguineous Pennsylvania Straub Family. MS, Hazen, ND. 564 pp. (available on LDS microfilm or fische). The "consanguineous family" is that of our subject. I have not seen the entire publication, but Stephen Stroup has kindly sent me scans of some key pages, one of which is the Pedigree Chart showing the ancestry of Peter. The "Andreas STRAUB & Catherina" on the chart have been presumed to be Andreas STRAUB & Catharina DELONG, but could they be Andreas STRAUB & Anna Catharina SPRINGER? The book, as far as I can tell, is undocumented, so we don't know on what basis connections were made (or the source of Peter's birthyear, which is critical if correct). What we do know is that DNA proves our subject is not descended from Johann Pieter STRAUB & Maria Barbara.
13. Email from Rita Rogers Nowack, including:
14. WorldConnect / Ancestry World Trees (online at RootsWeb.com/Ancestry.com). |
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