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Lineages and Results of Y-DNA Testing for STRAUB, TRAUB, STRAUBE, STROOP, STRUB,
and Variations, especially STROUP, STROUPE, TROUP, TROUPE, etc.
Haplogroup R1b
Results
Hub		 Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
(number tested at FTDNA + number tested elsewhere / number of different progenitors)		 Project
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E (1 / 1)  I1  (4 / 3) I1-AS5 (23 / 1)  I2  (5+1 / 4) J2 (4 / 2) R1a (2 / 1) R1b (14 / 12) T (1 / 1)
R1b is the most common haplogroup subclade in western Europe.  It is the group believed to have re-populated Europe from an Iberian refugium when the last glacial ice sheet retreated about 10-12,000 years ago.
Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype — WAMH
Of the many haplotypes represented within R1b, the most common 12-marker haplotype is called the "Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype."  In the results tables below, the R1b modal haplotype is highlighted in cyan and is used as an arbitrary standard against which to compare our R1b members.  (Because the most common subclade of R1b is R1b1b2, the modal values for R1b are the same as those of R1b1b2.)  The modal value for each marker is taken independently; no one individual is modal for all values, so no one actually has this entire haplotype.  FTDNA members whose 12-marker haplotype matches one of the four most common 12-marker R1b haplotypes will find they have a WAMH logo on their member page.  Being the most common haplotype means most R1b's will have to test more markers (minimally 37) to gain separation from those only distantly related (beyond "genealogical time").
Our fourteen R1b project members can be divided into six groups:
1.  Six who are deduced to be R-1b1b-2 and are designated "WAMH" by FamilyTreeDNA.
2.  Four who are deduced to be R-1b1b-2, but who are not designated WAMH.
3.  One with an NPE who is deduced to be R-1b1b-2 and has a high-level match with surname SELLERS.
4.  One with an NPE who is deduced to be R-1b1b-2 and has a high-level match with surname NEUHAUS / NEWHOUSE.
5.  One who has a null value for marker DYS439 placing him in subclade R-1b1b-2a1a1.
6.  One with an NPE whose deep SNP testing proves he is subclade R-1b1b-2a1b-5, the "Northwest Irish" subclade.
1 2 3 4 5 6
R-1b1b-2—WAMH
(n = 6 / 4)		 R-1b1b-2
(n = 4 / 4)		 R-1b1b-2—SELLERS
(n = 1 / 1)		 R-1b1b-2—NEUHAUS
(n = 1 / 1)		 R-1b1b-2a1a-3—null439
(n = 1 / 1)		 R-1b1b-2a1b-5—NW Irish
(n = 1 / 1)
(n = number tested / number of lineages)

The members labeled "SELLERS," "NEUHAUS," and "NW Irish" each appear to have an NPE, a "non-paternal event" (i.e., hidden adoption or illicit paternity) in their patrilineal ancestry.  This does not mean they should be removed from the project because, regardless of who their patrilineal ancestors were, each has succeeded in founding a new dynasty of STROUP.
Haplogroup R1b Subclades as Defined by SNP Mutations
Mutations Subclade Remarks
FTDNA ISOGG
M207=UTY2 M306=S1 P224 P227 P229 P232 P280 P285 S4 S8 S9 R R Eurasia, ca. 27,000 yrs BP
M173=P231 P225 P232 P233 P234 P236 P238 P242 P286 P294 R-1 R-1 southwestern Eurasia, ca. 18,500 yrs BP
-SRY10831.2 = -SRY1532.2 [back mutation] R-1a R-1a Eurasian Steppe, eastern Europe
M343 R-1b R-1b Asia Minor, western Europe (see map)
P25 R-1b1 R-1b1  
M18 R-1b1a R-1b1a Sardinia
P297 R-1b1b R-1b1b  
M73 R-1b1b-1 R-1b1b-1  
M269 S3 S10 S13 S17 R-1b1b-2 R-1b1b-2 western Europe
L23=S141 L49 R-1b1b-2a  R-1b1b-2a  
L51   R-1b1b-2a1  
L11=S127 L52 P311=S128 P310=S129 R-1b1b-2a1 R-1b1b-2a1a
U106=M405=S21 R-1b1b-2a1a R-1b1b-2a1a-1 western Europe, most common in the British Isles, especially England
U198=M467=S29 R-1b1b-2a1a-1 R-1b1b-2a1a-1a uncommon - concentrated in England
also found in Low Countries and Rhine Valley
P107 R-1b1b-2a1a-2 R-1b1b-2a1a-1b confined to England (pre-Anglo-Saxon)
L1=S26  R-1b1b-2a1a-3 R-1b1b-2a1a-1c null-DYS439; concentrated in England 
also found in Spain, Norway, southern Germany
L48=S162 R-1b1b-2a1a-4 R-1b1b-2a1a-1d  
L44 L45 L46 L47   R-1b1b-2a1a-1d1  
P312=S116 R-1b1b-2a1b R-1b1b-2a1a-2 throughout Europe
M65 R-1b1b-2a1b-1 R-1b1b-2a1a-2a Basque
M153 R-1b1b-2a1b-2 R-1b1b-2a1a-2b Spanish; New World Latinos
SRY2627=M167 R-1b1b-2a1b-3 R-1b1b-2a1a-2c Iberia; SW England and Ireland
U152=S28 R-1b1b-2a1b-4 R-1b1b-2a1a-2d 10% of western European males — 
found in Greece, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, France, Poland, Norway, Netherlands, Scotland, England, Wales
M126 R-1b1b-2a1b-4a R-1b1b-2a1a-2d1 European
M160 R-1b1b-2a1b-4b R-1b1b-2a1b-2d2 European
L2=S139 R-1b1b-2a1b-4c R-1b1b-2a1b-2d3  
L20=S144 R-1b1b-2a1b-4c1  R-1b1b-2a1b-2d3a  
L4 R-1b1b-2a1b-4d  
S68   R-1b1b-2a1a-2e  
L21=S145 R-1b1b-2a1b-5  R-1b1b-2a1a-2f  
M37 R-1b1b-2a1b-5a R-1b1b-2a1a-2f1 found in some European Australians
M222=USP9Y+3636 R-1b1b-2a1b-5b R-1b1b-2a1a-2f2 NW Ireland; W Scotland; "Niall"
P66 R-1b1b-2a1b-5c R-1b1b-2a1a-2f3 Italy
M335 R-1b1c R-1b1c  
M124 P249 P267 R-2 R-2 Asia, especially central and southern (India)
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Red labels indicate markers that typically mutate more frequently than those labeled in black. Marker 464 mutates most rapidly of all and sometimes has five to seven counts (a-g), not just four (a-d).
(Empty cells that are darkened indicate tests not ordered.)
R-1b1b-2 — WAMH
To view the subjects' lineages, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
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R1b Modal Values C7BED   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per David Wilson.
German STRUBE > STROOP          
STROOP1 13668     13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 12 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 36 38 12 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, John Robert5, Jacob Landrum4, John Moore3, Jacob2 STROOP, Johannes1 STRUBE — of Germany
1Markers 37-67 pending (target date not yet set).
#13668 has hundreds of matches at 12 markers, including two in this project, and dozens of near matches at 25 markers, outside the project, but no full or even near matches at 37 markers, in or out of the project.  His haplotype remains unique and easily distinguishable.
   
Bieringen STRAUB's          
STRAUB 34442   P25+ 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 11 10 19 23 17 15 16 17 37 40 11 12                                                             Pvt9, Pvt8, Joseph7, Jonas6, Melchior5, Joseph Carl4, Joseph3, Johannes2, Joseph1 — subject and ancestor of Bieringen, Württemberg
STRAUB 37265 FT6MQ   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 15 16 11 10 19 23 16 16 16 17 38 40 11 12                                                             Pvt(1st cousin to #23425)10, Pvt9, Joseph C.8, Joseph7, Casper6, Erasmus5, Joseph Carl4, Joseph3,Johannes2, Joseph1 — ancestor of Bieringen, Württemberg
STRAUB 23425 VFZXZ   13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 15 16 11 10 19 23 16 16 16 17 38 40 11 12                                                             Pvt(1st cousin to #37265)10, Pvt9, Joseph C.8, Joseph7, Casper6, Erasmus5, Joseph Carl4, Joseph3, Johannes2, Joseph1 — ancestor of Bieringen, Württemberg
These STRAUBs have hundreds of full matches at 12 markers and hundreds of near matches at 25 markers, but no full matches at 37 markers.  The only near match at 37 markers is the 36/37 match between the two cousins, #37265 and #23425.  The bright green table cell represents a mutation event between one cousin (#23425) and his grandfather, Joseph8; descendants of these two cousins will be separable by their Y-DNA.
Two of these three are 12/12 matches for the WAMH, so have a WAMH logo on their member page; however, the mutation carried by #23425 at DYS385b (the green table cell) drops him out of the "top four" ranking of most common R1b haplotypes, so he does not bear a WAMH logo, despite the fact that his first cousin does.
A match of only 32/37 between #34442 and #23425 would usually be considered a weak relationship, yet the paper connections between these 4th cousins (once removed) appears solid.  I would recommend upgrading to 67 markers to see if the match doesn't improve; that is, that we might find no differences in markers 38-67, which would bring the overall match more into line with what would be expected from cousins this closely related.  It would also help to test more cousins (on different lines) on the presumption that these other lines would fall "in between" these individuals, forming a "bridge" between them.  In that sense, #37265 provides one step of that bridge because he is a 33/37 match with #34442. 
As part of its "Haplogroup Assurance" policy, #34442 has received a gratis backbone SNP test from FTDNA.  The result of P25+ proves he is R1b1.
Despite the geographic proximity of Bieringen and Felldorf — villages in Württemberg just four miles apart — these Bieringen STRAUBs and the Felldorf STRAUBs (see below) have matches in the range of only 24/37 to 26/37, so they are not closely related.
   
Felldorf STRAUB          
STRAUB 34437 DSJS7   13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 16 17 18 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 18 35 40 12 12                                                             Pvt6, Pvt5, Francis Xavier4, Peter P.3, Anton2, Frantz Xavier1 — ancestor of Felldorf, Württemberg
#34437 has a common 12-marker haplotype with hundreds of 12/12 matches in other surnames and four near matches within the project (see other R1b's above).  However, the close relationship with the other R1b's at 12 markers breaks down at 25 markers, so despite the geographic proximity of the Felldorf and Bieringen STRAUBs, they do not appear to be closely related (see above).  Outside the project, in other surnames, this subject has a few dozen near matches at 25 markers and one distant match at 37 markers.  At 37 markers, this line remains unique and easily identifiable.
   
Ohio > Indiana STROUP          
STROUP 45729 MHVZS   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 18 12 11 19 23 15 15 18 18 38 39 11 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, Pvt5, George Tirl4, Joseph Benjamin3, William Jacob2, Joseph1 — Hamilton Co., OH, to Shelby Co., IN
#45729 has a common 12-marker haplotype with hundreds of full matches at 12 markers and dozens of near matches at 25 markers, all outside the project in other surnames.  Within the project, he has three near matches at 12 markers and one near match at 25 markers (see other R1b's above), but the apparent resemblance to Bieringen STRAUB #34442 at 25 markers (23/25) disappears at 37 markers (28/37).  His haplotype remains unique and easily distinguishable.
   
R-1b1b-2
To view the subjects' lineages, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
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R1b Modal Values C7BED   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per David Wilson.
Clarion County, PA, STROUP          
STROUP 64359     13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 17                                                                                     Pvt6, Pvt5, Arthur L.4, Charles L.3, James Sterrett2, Philip1 — of Clarion Co., PA
#64359 has hundreds of 12/12 matches (in other surnames), and dozens of near matches at 25 markers (in other surnames); however, he has no full matches at 25 markers.  His best match at Ysearch is one at 16 markers (in another surname), and his best matches at SMGF are 19/20 (in other surnames).  I would not attach any significance to any of these matches outside his surname; so, with regard to his STRAUB / STROUP relationships, his haplotype remains unique and easily distinguishable.
   
Alsace-Lorraine STRAUB          
STRAUB 48419 BPRHY   13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 18 10 10 10 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 15 16 11 11 17 23 16 15 17 17 36 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 15 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 Pvt5 Pvt4, Albert Edward3, Edward2, Aloysius1 — of Alsace-Lorraine
Like most R1b's, #48419 has dozens of 12/12 matches (all in other surnames), but at 25 or more markers, he has no full or even near matches either in the FTDNA or Ysearch databases.  There were many STRAUB immigrants to the United States from Alsace-Lorraine [an ethnic German enclave in France], so why haven't more joined the project to be tested?!
   
STROUP — PA > IN > MI > IA > CA          
STROUP 112582     13 24 15 10 11 14 12 13 11 13 13 29                                                                                                               Pvt6, Pvt5, Philip Thornton4, Harry Eli3, Eli Slifer2, Elisha1 — of Union Co., PA
This individual has a rare haplotype, with not even a remote match within the project and with only three 12/12 matches in the FTDNA and Ysearch databases (in other surnames).  It will be a waiting game for a STROUP match…
   
Bretzfeld TRAUB          
TRAUB 132965 -   13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 30 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 12 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 37 38 11 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, Charles5, Johann Georg4, Georg Heinrich3, Johann Georg2, Georg Michael1 — of Bretzfeld, Wuerttemberg
TRAUB 141144 -   13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 37 38 11 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, Wilhelm Gottlieb5, Johann Christian4, Johann Gottfired3, Christoph Friederich2, Johann Friederich1 — of Brettach, Wuerttemberg
These two individuals have rare haplotypes, with fewer than a dozen 12/12 matches in the FTDNA database and fewer still in the Ysearch database (all in other surnames).  They have a handful near matches at 25 makers, but no full matches, and no full or even near matches at 37 markers.  A researcher is seeking to test descendants of known TRAUBs in geographical proximity to these individuals.  Please contact the project admin if you are such a TRAUB or know of one.
   
R-1b1b-2 — SÖLLERS / SOELLERS / SELLERS
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Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
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R1b Modal Values C7BED   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per David Wilson.
           
STROUPE 114345 22RGS   12 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 13 15 16 17 10 11 19 24 16 15 17 18 36 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 13 11 12 11 11 12 12 Pvt3, Pvt2, Lawson Sidney1 STROUP — s/o Elizabeth STROUP of Gaston Co., NC
COPE 21515     12 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 13 15 16 17 10 11 19 24 16 15 18 18 36 37 12 12                                                             Pvt9, Pvt8, Everard Wilson7, Robert Wilson6, James5, John Andrew4, George Philip3, Johann Nicholas2, Yost1 — of Germany & PA [this line also of Rowan and Cabarrus Cos., NC]
QUEEN 29506 DRKUK   12 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 13 15 16 17                                                                                     Pvt5, Derald4, William Merrit3, John William2, John William1 — of Burke and Montgomery Cos., NC
SELLERS 35356     12 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30                                                                                                               Pvt11, Loren Floyd10, James Byron9, William B.8, John Leonard7, Philip Henry6, John Leonard5, Philip Heinrich4, Hans Adam3, Hans Paul2, Hans Georg1 SÖLLERS — of Baden-Wuerttemberg
SELLERS ?????     12 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 11 13 13 30                                                                                                               Pvt7, Pvt6, Winston S.5, George Andrew4, Samuel Andrew3, John2, John1 — NC > SC > Henry Co., GA > Randolph Co., AL
#114345 descends from Lawson Sidney STROUPE I, son of Elizabeth STROUP of Gaston Co., NC, and an unknown father.  Even though his origin on his patrilinal line is not STROUP, he belongs in the project because, by adopting the surname, he has effectively founded a new STROUPE line.  [The conversion from STRAUB to STROUP happened to Elizabeth's immigrant ancestor soon after his arrival in the U.S.; the terminal "e" is a recent addition.]
Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in western Europe, and most R1b's find they have hundreds of matches at 12 markers.  However, #114345 has a rare haplotype, with only four matches in the FTDNA and Ysearch databases.  His highest match in the SMGF database is only 10/10, and he has no matches at Ybase.  The test result that's preventing these individuals from getting more matches is DYS393=12 (highlighted in orange in the table), which is usually 13 for R1b1b2.  Given the rarity of his haplotype, there is definitely hope of determining the ancestry of this STROUPE with certainty.  Likewise the COPE and QUEEN.
As of Sep 2008, our STROUPE has two 12/12 matches with surname SELLERS, one 25/25 match with surname QUEEN, and one 36/37 match with surname COPE.  While the QUEEN and SELLERS connections remain tentative, there is no doubt that the STROUPE and COPE have a near common ancestor.  Probably, they all do because their haplotype is rare.  In other words, we're looking at two NPEs, in addition to our fatherless STROUPE.  Circumstances suggest that the "true" surname here is SELLERS  because Elizabeth STROUP and her family are surrounded by SELLERS households in the 1880 census, about the time her son, Lawson, was conceived.  What we need here is for the QUEEN and, especially, the SELLERS to upgrade to at least 37 markers, preferably 67, to determine whether their match remains tight or falls apart.
It isn't necessary for the specific lines tested to have crossed paths, only that some line of each family did so.  For example, SELLERS #35356 descends from Philip Heinrich through his son, John Leonard, a line that moved from Pennsylvania to Ohio.  However, John Leonard had a brother, George, who moved from Pennsylvania to Gaston Co., NC.  It was the latter line from whom our STROUPE almost certainly descends.
SELLERS #35356 is a member of the SELLERS project at FTDNA, and he shows up in the online database at the project web site (see first row in table).  He is the only one in the SELLERS project with DYS393=12.  He must not have his member page set to compare results outside the SELLERS project because he does not show up on the "Y-DNA Matches" tab of our STROUPE.  Conversely, the one with Kit #???? is in the FTDNA database and shows up as a match on our subject's Y-DNA Matches tab, but not in the SELLERS project database, so I don't know his kit number and haven't seen his results displayed anywhere.  As he is a 12/12 match, we can at least go ahead and put him in the table with the same values as our subject.
   
R-1b1b-2 — NEUHAUS / NEWHOUSE
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  R1b Modal Values C7BED   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per David Wilson.
                   
0 NEWHOUSE Modal Values     13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 13 14 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12                                                             Modals for this NEWHOUSE-STROUPE family.
                   
0 STROUPE 34371 MC2NB   13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 13 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, William Henry5, William4, Jacob Jackson3, [NPE] Jacob2, John Peter1 — of Wythe Co., VA
NEWHOUSE 48567     13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 13 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 15 10 12 12 15 8 11 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 11 Pvt7, Noah Franklin6, William Thomas II5, William Thomas I4, John M.3, Isaac I2, Anthony1 — of Philadelphia, PA
1 NEWHOUSE 46428     13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 14 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12                                                             Pvt8, Pvt7, Daniel Winter6, William Hanson5, Isaac L.4, Isaac3, David2, Anthony1 — of Philadelphia, PA
NEWHOUSE 36476     13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 14 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 23 15 10 12 12 15 8 11 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Pvt8, Pvt7, John Lafayette6, Joseph5, William4, Anthony3, David2, Anthony1— of Philadelphia, PA
NEWHOUSE 126440     13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 14 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12                                                             Pvt…
NEWHOUSE 132573     13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 14 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12                                                             Pvt…
2 NEWHOUSE 54118     13 24 14 11 11 14 13 12 14 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 11 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12                                                             Pvt8, Pvt7, William Newton6, Alexander5, Samuel4, Anthony3,  David2, Anthony1 — of Philadelphia, PA
NEWHOUSE 58672     13 24 14 12 11 14 13 12 13 14 13 30 17  9 10 11 11 26 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 10 10 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 12 12                                                             Pvt7, Pvt6, James Marshall5, Peter Miller4, John M.3, Isaac I2, Anthony1 — of Philadelphia, PA
STROUPE #34371 has a paper descent from John Peter STROUP of Wythe County, Virginia, but his DNA is not a match with other descendants of John Peter, another one of whom has a different NPE in his lineage, while the third is a descendant of Johann Pieter STRAUB I, 1733 immigrant to Philadelphia.  I have constructed a "Node Chart for John Peter STROUP" that should aid us in determining where the NPEs in these lineages occurred.
#34371 has an uncommon haplotype with no full or even near matches within the project.  Outside the project, he has a 37/37 match with the modal haplotype of a NEWHOUSE family.  On the face of it, NEWHOUSE appears to be an English surname, but I'm informed by kin that the progenitor's original surname was German NEUHAUS.  Examination of the results table of the NEWHOUSE project, which has eleven members (as of 14 Apr 2009), shows our subject closely related to seven of them (included in the above table with our STROUPE).  These NEWHOUSEs have kindly shared their lineages, which is greatly aiding to establish the true lineage of our NEWHOUSE-STROUPE.  Is is not insignificant that Isaac NEWHOUSE I, son of Anthony NEWHOUSE I, progenitor of these NEWHOUSE's, was a next-door neighbor of John Peter STROUP in Wythe Co., VA, in 1795, and that our subject is a 37/37 match with a patrilineal descendant of Isaac I.
The only two NEWHOUSEs in the Ysearch database (as of 6 Nov 2007) are Haplogroup J2, so are not remotely related to the above NEWHOUSEs.  There are no NEUHAUS / NEWHOUSE in the SMGF database (as of 14 Apr 2009).
   
R-1b1b-2a1a-3— Null DYS439
To view the subject's lineage, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID		 SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
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R1b Modal Values C7BED   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per David Wilson.
null439 Cluster 1 Modal Values 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 0 13 13 29 17  9  9 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15/16 16 17 10/11 11 19 23 16 16 17/18 16/17 38 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 15 10 12 12 14/15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 Modals for Null-439 as of 11 Apr 2007; markers in red, yellow, or orange are differences from Modal R1b.
Württemberg > Philadelphia          
STRAUB 82917 -   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 0 14 13 30 17  9  9 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 39 12 12                                                             Pvt4, Pvt3, Gustav August2, Charles/Carl1 — immigrant to Philadelphia from Wuerttemberg in 1881
#82917 has a rare null value at DYS439 (red table cell), meaning the indicator used to locate the marker has been lost, so no count of STRs could be made.  The change in the indicator is a SNP mutation (S26+), and this mutation defines Haplogroup R-1b1b-2a1a-1.  The mutation appears to have arisen about 2500 to 3500 years ago.  Note that FTDNA will show a value of 12 for the marker on the assumption that the modal value is what the count would most likely be if it could be made.  The null439 condition is sufficiently distinct to warrant its own project, and your admin recommends joining the null439 DNA Project.  The null439 project web site is an excellent source of information on what a null439 is and what it means.  The null439 project has identified two major clusters of haplotypes, with DYS459b=9 (yellow table cell) being the major difference distinguishing Cluster 1 from Cluster 2.  The null439 mutation is found thinly in western Europe, but is concentrated in the British Isles; Cluster 1 is concentrated in England and, most notably for our purposes, is also found in southern Germany.  The late Leo Little, former administrator of the null439 project, told me (in Apr 2007) the three German null439's are surnamed BETTINGER, BLY, and STINER, and are from the region of the Rhine River Valley and Wuerttemberg.
Assuming a modal value of 12 for DYS439, our subject's haplotype becomes quite common, with many near matches, which is not surprising considering its resemblance to the modal R1b haplotype.  It's the S26+ SNP mutation that makes this group uncommon.  Your project admin recommends taking an S26+ test to confirm the presence of this mutation.
   
R-1b1b-2a1b-5 — Northwest Irish
To view the subject's lineage, please scroll to the right.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID		 Most
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SNP		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
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R1b Modal Values C7BED   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per David Wilson.
NW Irish Modals M5UKQ M222 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 15 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 17 16 18 17 37 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 21 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 25 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Differences from R1b modals in green; modals for markers 38-67 courtesy of Craig Dowd.
                 
STROUP 24073 4MXVZ M222 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 17  9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 14 15 16 16 12 11 19 22 17 16 18 17 38 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 25 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Pvt6, John Franklin5, George V.4, Samuel Patton3, Peter2, John Peter1 — of Wythe Co., VA
This individual has a paper descent from John Peter STROUP of Wythe Co., VA, but like one other member in the project with a paper descent from John Peter, he has an NPE in his patrilineal line.  I have constructed a "Node Chart for John Peter STROUP" that should aid us in determining where the NPEs in their lineages occurred.
This individual has a common haplotype with over 200 full matches at 12 markers, over 100 near matches at 25 markers, over 10 near matches at 37 markers, and even a few near matches at 67 markers — all in other, mostly Irish, surnames.  His closest matches are with surname DOHERTY / DOUGHERTY.  He does, in fact, resemble the modal haplotype of the kin-group of 5th-Century Irish warlord, Niall of the Nine Hostages, even at 67 markers (see also Wilson's excellent web page discussing the "NW Irish" subclade [link died]). 
Our subject has undergone deep SNP testing at FTDNA, with these results:
M207+ M173+ M343+ P25+ M18- M73- M269+ M222+ M37- M65- M126- M153- M160- SRY2627- P66-
The positive results for the first four SNP tests prove he is R-1b1; the negative results for M18 and M73 rule out R-1b1a and R-1b1b-1; the positive result for M269 proves he is R-1b1b-2; the positive test for M222+ proves our subject is Haplogroup R-1b1b-2a1b-5, the so-called "Northwest Irish" subclade.  The remaining negative results redundantly prove he is not any other subclade of R-1b.
   
What constitutes a match?
Matches in other surnames are usually mere coincidence, so please ignore them — I'll let you know when you shouldn't!
For 12 markers:  9 or less is a non-relative; 10-12, please see this Chart compiled by FTDNA.
For 25 markers:  21 or less is a non-relative; 22-25, please see this Chart compiled by FTDNA.
For 37 markers:  31 or less is a non-relative; 32-37, please see this Chart compiled by FTDNA.
For 67 markers:  55 or less is a non-relative; 56-67, please see this Chart compiled by FTDNA.
For any test:  0 matching markers, please contact NASA.

 
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