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Lineages and Results of Y-DNA Testing for STRAUB, TRAUB, STRAUBE, STROOP, STRUB, and Variations, especially STROUP
Haplogroup I2
Results
Hub		 Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
(number tested at FTDNA + number tested elsewhere / number of different progenitors)		 Project
Home
E (1 / 1)  I1  (18 / 3)  I2  (5+1 / 4) J2 (3 / 1) R1a (2 / 1) R1b (13 / 11) T (1 / 1)
Haplogroup I is found almost exclusively in Europe where it is represented in about 20% of the population, making it the second most common haplogroup in western Europe, after R1b.  Overall, Hg I has a broad European distribution, from the British Isles east to the Ural Mountains of Russia and south to Anatolia and the Mediterranean Sea.  Hg I is divided into two main groups:  I1 (old I1a), which is the most common form of Hg I in northwestern Europe, and I2 (old I1b), which is the most common form of Hg I in eastern Europe.  Subclade I2 is much less common than I1. 
It's difficult to generalize about I2 because it contains a number of geographically separate subgroups.  The two basic divisions of I2 are I2a (old I1b1) and I2b (old I1b2).  The main subgroup of I2a is concentrated in the Balkans and is called "Dinaric" (named for a mountain range there, the Dinaric Alps), while another group of I2a is found around the Baltic and North Sea coastal areas, another in the British Isles, and another in Sardinia and Iberia.  One subgroup of I2b, called "Isles," is almost exclusive to the British Isles, with a high concentration in Scotland, while the main subgroup of I2b, dubbed "Continental," is most common in northwestern Europe, southern Scandinavia, and Britain. 
Unlike Haplogroup I1, which is universally 8 at marker DYS455, Haplogroup I2 is usually 11 (sometimes 10 and very rarely 9) at this marker.
We have six members who are I2, two who are I2a and four who are some form of I2b:
I2a I2b
I2a*-Dinaric-S
(n = 2 / 1)		 I2b*-A
(n = 2 / 1)		 I2b1-Cont-3
(n = 1 /1)		 I2b1a - Isles
(n = 1 / 1)
n = frequency / lineages
Ken Nordtvedt is the guru researching Hg I subclades (see his Excel spreadsheet).  For a table showing modal haplotypes for Hg I varieties in FamilyTreeDNA marker order, please also see my HTML transcription of Nordtvedt's spreadsheet.
The Y-DNA haplotree has undergone a major revision in 2008.  For Haplogroup I, the major change is the removal of old I1 based on the P38 SNP, which means all downstream clades have been "bumped up" a notch.  What that means for us is that everyone who was formerly I1b is now I2.  This change has been adopted by FTDNA, ISOGG, Nordvedt, and by me here on these web pages (as of June 2008).
Nordtvedt's Chart (2008) ISOGG Chart (2008) FTDNA Chart (2008)
Subclade Defining SNPs Subclade Defining SNPs Subclade Defining SNPs
I P19 P38 M170 M258 I P19 P38 M170 M258 P212 U179 I P19 P38 M170 M258 P212 U179
I1 all of I and P30 P40 M253 M307 I1 all of I and P30 P40 M253 M307 I1 all of I and P30 P40 M253 M307
I2 all of I and S31 I2 all of I and M438/P215/S31 I2 all of I and P215
 
I2a all of I2 and P37.2 I2a all of I2 and P37.2 I2a all of I2 and P37.2
I2a1 all of I2a and M26 I2a1 all of I2a and M423 I2a1 all of I2a and P41.2/M359
I2a1a all of I2a1 and M161 I2a1a all of I2a1 and P41.2/M359.2 I2a2 all of I2a and M26
I2a2 all of I2a and M423 I2a2 all of I2a and M26 I2a2a all of I2a2 and M161
I2a2a all of I2a2 and M359/P41.2 I2a2a all of I2a2 and M161    
 
I2b all of I2 and S23 S30 S32 S33 I2b all of I2 and M436/P14/S33 P216/S30
P217/S23 P218/S32		 I2b all of I2 and M223 P214 P216 P217 P218 P219 P220 P221 P222/U250 P223
I2b1 all of I2b and M223 S24 I2b1 all of I2b and M223 P219/S24 P220/S119 P221/S120 P222/U250/S118 P223/S117
I2b1a all of I2b1 and M284 I2b1a all of I2b1 and M284 I2b1 all of I2b and M284
I2b1b all of I2b1 and M379 I2b1b all of I2b1 and M379 I2b2 all of I2b and M379
I2b1c all of I2b1 and P78 I2b1c all of I2b1 and P78 I2b3 all of I2b and P78
I2b1d all of I2b1 and P95 I2b1d all of I2b1 and P95 I2b4 all of I2b and P95
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Red labels indicate markers that typically mutate more frequently than those labeled in black. Marker 464 mutates most rapidly of all and sometimes has five to seven counts (a-g), not just four (a-d).
(Empty cells that are darkened indicate tests not ordered.)
I2a* — Dinaric-S [old I1b1]
Their haplotype most resembles the modal haplotypes of the Dinaric varieties of I2a found most frequently in Germany, eastern Europe, and the Balkans.  The region of the Dinaric Alps (a mountain chain in southeastern Europe spanning Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia and Montenegro, and Albania) is believed to have been the refugium for this population during the last glacial maximum, hence its name, "Dinaric."
Surname Kit # Ysearch
Code
SNP
Test		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0		 19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
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3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 4
6
4
d		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
Eastern European I2 UZY58   13 24 16 11 14 15 11 13 13 13 11 31 17 8 10 11 11 25 15 20 32 12 14 15 15 10 10 21 21 15 12 17 18 34 35 11 10                                                             As per Carl-Johan Swärdenheim, Scandinavian Project Admin (12 Jul 2007); markers in purple characteristic of I2.
I2a-Dinaric-S modals     13 24 16 11 14 15 11 13 13 13 11 31 17 8 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 12 14 15 15 10 10 21 21 15 12         11 10 11 8 15 15 7 12 10 8 11 9 12 22 22 16 10 12 12 12 7 10 30 21 13 14 10 13 11 11 12 9 As per Nordtvedt (20 Jan 2008); markers in red characteristic of I2, markers in orange characteristic of Dinaric-S.
                 
STROUP 92668 VQ3AU   13 24 16 11 14 15 11 13 12 13 11 30 18 8  9 11 11 25 15 19 30 12 14 15 15                                                                                     Pvt8, Pvt7, Nelson Walter6, Charles Nelson5, Isaac William4, Joseph3, Anthony2, Adam Michael1 — of Germany? and MD
STROUP 117164 - Deep 13 24 16 11 14 15 11 13 12 13 11 30                                                                                                               Pvt6, Pvt5, Carey Daniel4, Jacob Ulysses3, James Polk2, Jacob1 — of PA and Grant Co., IN
This match came as a surprise, given that a paper connection between them is unknown.  At 12 markers, they have a handful of full matches (in other surnames) in the FTDNA database; and at 25 markers, #92668 has a few near matches (in German and Slavic surnames) in the Ysearch database, but no full matches.  The haplotype remains unique at 25 markers.  Your project admin recommends both individuals upgrade to at least 37 markers, to see if their match remains close or falls away. 
#117164 has undergone deep SNP testing, and his results are:
P37.2+ P41.2- M26- 
The positive result of P37.2 proves he is I2a, while the negative results for P41.2 and M26 rule out any known subclade of I2a.  Therefore he is I2a* or "root" I2a.  This result is consistent with him being I2a-Dinaric.
   
I2b*-A [old I1b2]
This subclade is uncommon:  based on the database at SMGF, only about 0.5% of European Hg I are I2b.  Geographically widespread in western Europe, from Iberia, France, and Italy to Germany and Denmark, but absent from Sweden and Norway.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID
SNP
Tests		 Haplotype— as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9
a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
I2b*-A modal values 13 25 16 11 16 13 11 13 11 12 11 28 16 8 10 10 12 24 15 19 28 14 14 15 15 10 9 19 19 14 14         11 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 11 9 12 21 22   11 12 12 16 8 13 23 21 11 13 12 14 11 12 12 11 Defining markers highlighted in yellow and boldfaced.
                 
STRAUP 26031 E3BJM Basic 13 25 17 10 13 16 11 13 11 12 11 30 16 8 10  9 12 23 15 19 28 14 14 15 15 10 9 19 19 14 14 18 17 34 42 13 10                                                             Pvt7, Earl Frank6, William E.5, James F. STRAUP4, Thomas3, David2, Theobald/Dewald STRAUB1 — of Carbon Co., PA
STROUP 58687   Deep 13 25 17 10 13 16 11 13 11 12 11 30 16 8 10  9 12 24 15 19 28 14 14 15 15 10 9 19 19 14 14 18 17 34 41 13 10 11 8 15 16 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 21 21 16 11 12 12 16 8 13 23 21 11 13 12 15 11 12 12 11 Pvt6, Pvt5, Bert S.4, Jonathan Samuel3, Jacob2, Peter1 — of Perry Co., PA
These two individuals have a rare haplotype.  They have no full or near matches at 25 or 37 markers (except with each other) making this haplotype, at least for now, unique and easily distinguishable.  We do not know how these two subjects connect, but I suspect they are both related to Andreas STRAUB I, the 1742 immigrant to Lancaster Co., PA.  We need a known patrilineal descendant of Andreas to be tested!
Standard testing does not reveal the order of Markers DYS 385a and 385b.  By convention, they are reported lo-hi.  A Kittler test can reveal the true order of these alleles; and, in the case of I2b*, Kittler testing has revealed that their order is actually hi-lo.  Your project admin recommends at least one of you get a Kittler test to determine your ordering of these alleles.  Even though the result is almost certain to be hi-lo, it's "good science" to be certain.
Based on #26031's haplotype, FTDNA tentatively predicted his haplogroup was "C" (Asian), which prompted a backbone SNP test.  The SNP test result of M216- ruled out Hg C, while P19+ proved Hg I, which shows that, for rare haplotypes, a backbone SNP test can be essential for determining the correct haplogroup. 
Based on Nordtvedt's research, our subjects show an overall resemblance to the modal haplotype of his I2b*-A variety, yet their haplotype fails at a key (i.e., extremely slow mutating) marker, namely DYS455 (green table cells).
Results of Deep SNP testing for #58687 are:
I — yes I1 — no I2a — no  I1b2a — no
P19+ P38+ M170+ M258+ P30- M253- M307- M21- M72- M227- P37.2- M26- M161- M223-
The positive tests for P19, P38, M170, and M258 prove that he is Hg I, while the negative results for P30, M253, M307, M21, M72, and M227 rule out I1 and all of its subclades (see I1 table), meaning he is proven to be I2.  The negative results for P37.2, M26, and M161 rule out I2a and its subclades (see I2 table above).  The negative result for M223 rules out any subclade of I2b.  So, as predicted by Nordvedt based on the STR haplotype, our subject is root (ancestral) I2b*.
   
I2b1-Continental-3 [old I1b2a]
Continental is the most common form of I2b1.  It is found thinly thoughout Europe, but is concentrated in central and northern Germany, the Netherlands, and Denmark.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID
SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9
a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
Modal values 15 23 15 10 16 17 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8  9 11 11 24 14 20 27 14 15 16 16 11 10 19 21 14           12 10 11 8 15 15 8   10 8 10 9 12 21 22 15 11 12 12 13 9 13 24;25   10     13         Core Continental-3 markers highlighted in yellow.
                 
STRAUB 38897 EM4NU P19+  14 22 16 10 16 18 11 13 11 13 13 29 17 8  9 11 11 23 14 20 27 14 15 16 16 11 10 19 21 14 16 18 22 35 38 13 10                                                             Pvt6, George Irvin5, Joseph Franklin4, Joseph3, Henry2, Henry1 — of Northumberland Co., PA
#38897 has a rare haplotype with no full or near matches within the project (has one 12/12 match outside the project in another surname), but no full or near matches at 25 or 37 markers.
Based on the STR haplotype, this line is deduced to be some variety of I2b1-Continental (as per communication from Ken Nordtvedt), and it most closely resembles Continental-3.
   
I2b1a-Isles/Sc [old I1b2a1]
Rare, and found (almost?) exclusively in the British Isles, especially Scotland.  Thought to have arrived in the British Isles in pre-Roman times.
Surname Kit # Ysearch
User ID
SNP
Tests		 Haplotype— as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67 SMGF Markers
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
|
3
8
5		 b
|
3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
|
3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
|
3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
|
4
5
9		 b
|
4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9
a
|
4
6
4		 b
|
4
6
4		 c
|
4
6
4		 d
|
4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
|
G
A
T
A		 IIa
|
Y
C
A		 IIb
|
Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
|
C
D
Y		 b
|
C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
|
S1
3
9
5		 b
|
S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
|
4
1
3		 b
|
4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 4
6
1		 4
6
2		 A10
|
G
A
T
A		 C4
|
6
3
5		 B
0
7		 4
4
1		 4
4
5		 4
5
2		 4
6
3
Modal values 15 24 15 10 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16  8  9 11 11 26 15 20 28 11 11 14 15 11 10 19 21 14           12 10 11 8 15 16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19 21 16 11 12 12   9 14     10   11 13 11 11 12 11 12 12 13 19 11 14 11 31 20 Core markers highlighted in yellow and/or boldface.