Barack OBAMA, 44th President of the United States
descendant of Johann Pieter STRAUB, 1733 immigrant to Philadelphia, PA
"We are and always will be the United States of America." (4 Nov 2008, Grant Park, Chicago, IL)
 
Lineages and Results of Y-DNA Testing for STRAUB, TRAUB, STRAUBE, STROOP, STRUB, and Variations, especially STROUP
Haplogroup I1
Results
Hub		 Y-DNA Haplogroups Represented in the Project
(number tested at FTDNA + number tested elsewhere / number of different progenitors)		 Project
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E (1 / 1)  I1  (20+2 / 3)  I2  (5+1 / 4) J2 (3 / 1) R1a (2 / 1) R1b (14 / 12) T (1 / 1)
Hg I is the second most common haplogroup in western Europe, next to R1b.  Overall, Hg I has a broad European distribution, from the British Isles east to the Ural Mountains of Russia and south to Anatolia and the Mediterranean Sea, but I1 is highly concentrated in northern Germany, Denmark, and southern Norway and Sweden, which has led it to be nicknamed, the "Viking" haplogroup (though some consider R1a to be the only true Viking haplogroup).

The most common subclade of I1 is the root or ancestral subclade, I1*.  Subclades of I1 are rare to the point of not being genealogically useful, but no other SNPs subdivide the otherwise large I1 group. [Please see updated discussion below.]

In lieu of useful SNPs (the search for which is ongoing), varieties of I1 have been defined by Nordtvedt based on STR haplotypes.  A modal haplotype for all of I1 would not be meaningful because the various varieties of I1 have not shared a common ancestor for thousands of years, but key markers do unify the subclade (highlighted in red in the table).  Among European haplotypes, DYS455=8 is virtually exclusive to I1; and YCAIIa,b=19,21 is universal to it.  DYS511 has proven to be a useful marker for separating AngloSaxon and Norse/ultraNorse varieties of I1, it's value being 9 for the former and 10 for the latter.  DYS462 is also useful for separating AngloSaxon vs. Norse/ultraNorse, being 12 in the former and 13 in the latter, though this marker is not part of FTDNA's 67-marker set, so has to be tested either "a la carte" at FTDNA or elsewhere.

So far, our 22 Haplogroup I1 project members fall into these three varieties,
each apparently representing descendants of a single progenitor:

AngloSaxon-5 (n = 19) AngloSaxon-6 (n = 1) Norse-D (n = 2)
Ken Nordtvedt is the guru researching Hg I subclades (see his Excel spreadsheet).  For a table showing modal haplotypes for Hg I varieties in FamilyTreeDNA marker order, please also see my HTML transcription of Nordtvedt's spreadsheet.
The Y-DNA haplotree has undergone a major revision in 2008.  For Haplogroup I, the major change is the removal of old I1, which had been based on the P38 SNP, which means all downstream clades have been "bumped up" a notch.  What that means for us is that everyone who was formerly I1a is now simply I1.  This change has been adopted by FTDNA, ISOGG, and Nordvedt — and by me here on these web pages (as of May 2008).
FTDNA Chart (2004) Nordtvedt Chart (2006) Nordtvedt Chart (2008) FTDNA / ISOGG Chart (2008)
Subclade Defining SNPs Subclade Defining SNPs Subclade Defining SNPs Subclade Defining SNPs
I P19 M170 M258 I P19 M170 M258  I P19 P38 M170 M258  I P19 P38 M170 M258 P212 U179
I1 all of I and P38 I1 all of I and P38
I1a all of I1 and
P30 M253 M307		 I1a all of I1 and
P30 P40 M253 M307		 I1 all of I and
P30 P40 M253 M307
S62 S63 S64 S65 S66
S107 S108 S109 S110 S111		 I1 all of I and
P30 P40 M253 M307 M450/S109
S62 S63 S64 S65 S66
S107 S108 S110 S111
I1a1 all of I1a and P40
I1a4 all of I1a and M227 I1a1 all of I1a and M227 I1a all of I1 and M227 I1a all of I1 and M21
I1a3 all of I1a and M72 I1a3 all of I1a and M72 I1a1 all of I1a and M72 I1b all of I1 and M227
I1a2 all of I1a and M21 I1a2 all of I1a and M21 I1b all of I1 and M21 I1b1 all of I1b and M72
  I1c all of I1 and P109
I1d all of I1 and P259
I1b all of I1 and S31 I1b all of I1 and S31 I2 all of I and S31 I2 all of I and P215
• Because everyone who has tested positive for P19, M170, and M258 has also test positive for P38, P38 turns out to be a redundant test for I.  Therefore, the former I1 (defined by P38+) is not a separate subclade of I, but is still root I.  Unless and until someone who is positive for P19, M170, and M258 also tests negative for P38, there is no rationale for erecting a separate subclade for P38+.  Removing the subclade defined by P38+ affects the designation of all downstream subclades by bumping them up a notch.
• Because everyone who has tested positive for P30, M253, and M307 and negative for M227, M21, and M72 has also tested positive for P40, P40 turns out to be a redundant test for I1.  Therefore, the former I1a1 (defined by P40+) is not a separate subclade of I1, but is still root I1.  Unless and until someone who is positive for M21, M72, or M227 also tests negative for P40, there is no rationale for erecting a separate subclade for P40+.  Removing the subclade defned by P40+ affected the designation of only one downstream subclade. •It appears that root I is extinct because everyone so far tested is either I1 or I2.
•It turns out that no one who is positive for M72 is negative for M227, so M72 becomes a subclade, not a sisterclade, of M227. Both of these subclades are rare.
•M21 appears to be a singleton (i.e., only one person ever tested has the mutation).
•Research is ongoing, but it appears P109 will serve to spin off a small subclade of I1-Norse.
•The usefulness of P259 is still under investigation.
Bottom line:  despite continued effort, most of I1 is still a single large subclade lacking useful SNPs to subdivide it.
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Red labels indicate markers that typically mutate more frequently than those labeled in black. Marker 464 mutates most rapidly of all and sometimes has five to seven counts (a-g), not just four (a-d).
(Empty cells that are darkened indicate tests not ordered.)
I1*-AngloSaxon
I1-AngloSaxon is the most common form of I1.  It is most frequent in the Netherlands, northwestern Germany, and Denmark and is present at lower frequencies in eastern and southern Germany, southern Sweden, and the British Isles.  The most common form of I1-AS is AS1.  AS5 and 6 are uncommon.

I1*-AngloSaxon-5 — STRAUB of Gemmingen and Großgartach, Württemberg
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I1-AngloSaxon-5 modal values 14 22 14 10 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 20 28 12 14 15 15     10 10 19 21 14 14         12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 25 20 13 13 11 12 10 11 12 11 Key markers highlighted in color; modals per Nordtvedt.
                 
modal values for this family 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Key markers highlighted in color; distinguishing markers for this family highlighted in purple.
                 
0 STROUP 78741 H5K5T 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt11, Pvt10, Warren LeRoy9, Samuel Tilden8, Jacob7, Jonathan6, Joh. Adam5, Joh. Daniel4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STROUPE 94379 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt11, Pvt10, M.H.9, James Henderson8, Ephraim7, [David-or-Elias]6, Philip5, Joh. Jacob I4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
BELEW 97358 SYHF3 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt5, Pvt4, John Larkin3, Silas2, Solomon1 BELEW — presumed descendant of Andrew6, Adam5, Joh. Jacob I4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STRAUB 26156 BUHB7 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt5, William Albert4, Albert Roy3, George Washington2, Andrew S.1
1 STRAUB 23492 EJJQA 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     12 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt5, William Albert4, Albert Roy3, George Washington2, Andrew S.1
STROUP 124348 2KGR5 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 24 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt5, Charles Henry4, William Hostetler3, Levi B.2, Moses1
STROUPE 118841 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 14 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt11, Pvt10, Paul Clifton9, William Henry8, Silas7, Joseph6, Adam5, Joh. Jacob I4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STRAUB 32866 87BF4 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 21 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt10, Walter Larue9, Lewis8, Samuel Daniel7, Isaac6, Joh. Heinrich5, Joh. Carl4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
CRUMP 50052 WD24Q 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 36 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt4, Pvt3, Richard Lexington2, William Waitsel1 PRESTWOOD-CRUMP — presumed descendant of Joh. Jacob I4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STROUPE 74957 RMR7C 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 15 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt10, Andrew Jackson9, Alfred Isaiah8, Ephraim Daniel7, Matthew Wallace6, Daniel5, Joh. Jacob I4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STROUP 24212 345AZ 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 25 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt10, Lawrence Everett9, David King8, Adam7, Andrew Adam6, Adam5, Joh. Pieter II4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STROUP 116646 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 20 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt12, Pvt11, Goodell Wilson Jennings10, Clay Goodelle9, Wilson W.8, Samuel7, Peter6, Andrew5, Joh. Pieter II4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STRAUB 111298 47F2N 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 20 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt11, Pvt10, Otto Ludwig9, Johann Ludwig8, Philipp Dietrich7, Philipp Dietrich6, Georg Michael5, Georg Adam4, Antonius3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
2 STROUP 23426 T7TGS 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 28 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 20 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt6, Roland Virgil5, Henry Burdett4, Henry3, Samuel2, George1
STRAUB 75122 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 8 9 8 11 21 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 16 8 13 26 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Pvt5, Harold Henry4, Samuel3, John Jr.2, John Sr.1
3 BARNES 119218 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 13 11 29 15 8 9 8 11 22 16 19 29 12 14 15 15     11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 34 35 12 10 11 8 15 15 8 11 10 8 9 9 12 22 25 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 25 20 14 13 11 12 10 12 12 11 Miles Raymond11, Myles Raymond10 STROUP-BARNES, Robert Daniel9, George W.8, Daniel S.7, Peter6, Adam5, Joh. Peter II4, Joh. Peter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
? STROUPE1 133507 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28 15     8 11 22   19 29 12 12 14 15 15 15 11 10 19 21               10                                                             Pvt5, Pvt4, Russell B.3, Aaron2, Elisha1 — presumed descendant of Joh. Jacob I4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STROUPE2 130123 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28                               11 10 19 21 14 14 15 21 35 35 12 10                                                             Pvt12, Pvt11, Sidney Crockett10, William Henry9, Charles H.8, Andrew J.7, John6, John Peter5, Mathias Andreas4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
STROUPE 122322 - 14 22 15 11 13 13 11 16 11 12 11 28                                                                                                                   Pvt10, Pvt9, Jasper Daniel8, Daniel Jasper7, George6, Jacob5, Joh. Pieter II4, Joh. Pieter I3, Hans Adam2, Martin1
1Previously tested at Ancestry-DNA; currently being retested at FTDNA; Markers 1-67 pending (Batch 277: results expected 11/28).
2Markers 13-25 and 38-67 pending (Batch 275: results expected 11/15).
These 19 individuals are closely related.  Eighteen are a perfect match at 12 markers; thirteen are a perfect match at 25 markers, nine are a perfect match at 37 markers (and two others match each other 37/37, though not the other seven), four are a perfect match at 67 markers (and two others match each other 67/67, though not the other four), and two are a perfect match at 96 markers.  None has less than a 62/67 match with each other, and none tested to 67 markers matches the modal haplotype at less than 64/67 markers.  They have rare haplotypes that are, at least for now, unique and easily distinguishable (beyond their matches with each other, they have no full matches with anyone else at 25 markers and no full or even near matches with anyone else at 37 or more markers).  Note that any mutation in DYS389i is reflected in DYS389ii, so the differences in those markers for the BARNES represent one mutation, not two.
The big news here (20 Mar 2008) is the match of the American STRAUBs with the Württemberg STRAUB (#111298).  We have crossed the pond!  Our earliest known common ancestor is Martin STRAUB (1616-1676) of Gemmingen, then Grossgartach [now Leingarten], both in the Heilbronn District of Wuerttemberg [now Baden-Wuerttemberg], Germany.
The three cells highlighted in orange pose a challenge for interpreting the results in view of what are believed to be the relationships between these individuals.  If only #111298, the STRAUB still living in Wuerttemberg and descended from Antonius, Johann Pieter's brother, had this value, there would be no quandry.  We could simply assume his value of 20 at DYS570 stems from a mutation between Antonius and the test subject.  Even the matching value for #23426 is not a serious problem, because we can postulate that Antonius had the ancestral haplotype, and Johann Pieter is the one with the mutation (from 20 to 21), and that George must descend from some other member of this family who immigrated to the U.S., not Johann Pieter.  It's #116645 that poses the problem because he has a paper connection to Johann Pieter, yet possesses a value of 20 at DYS570.  The probability of the same mutation happening three times in the same family in only a dozen generations is low.  I discuss this problem further on the Node Chart for the Descendants of Martin STRAUB.
Results for descendants of Jacob STROUP I (1722-1804/5) of Lincoln [now Gaston] Co., NC, purported grandson of Matthias STROOP, the 1687 immigrant from Westphalia to Maryland, were unexpected because, as you can see above, they are a tight match (66/67 and 67/67) for the descendants of Johann Pieter STRAUB I of Pennsylvania.  These two are a decided non-match with the descendants of Jacob STROUP II (1771-1846) of NC, who are Haplogroup J2.  Being in different haplogroups means these I1 and J2 individuals cannot have shared a common ancestor for thousands of years, which means Jacob STROUP II cannot be a grandson of Jacob STROUP I as formerly believed.  These results resurrect and support the assertion that Jacob STROUP I of NC is the missing son, Johann Jacob STRAUB, who immigrated to Philadelphia in 1733 with his father, Johann Pieter STRAUB I.
Results for #75122 were also unexpected because he is not a match with the other paper descendant of John STRAUB, Sr., of Beaver Township (see Haplogroup I1-Norse-D, #24343, below). Because #75122 descends through John Jr., whose paper connection to John Sr. is essentially unassailable, it appears (for that and other reasons) that #24343 is the one with the bad connection to John Sr. For more discussion on the matter, please see John Sr.'s family group sheet. 
#133507 has been tested at Ancestry-DNA (A-DNA) and is now being re-tested at FTDNA.  He is a descendant of Elisha STROUP, whom I have long contended could not be a son of Jacob STROUP II as shown by most sources (all secondary).  My reasoning had been that Jacob II's wife at the time Elisha was born was simply too old to be bearing children.  The DNA test results support this contention because Elisha's descendant is Haplogroup I1 and matches this family, while Jacob STROUP II's descendants are Haplogroup J2.  People in different haplogroups cannot have shared a common ancestor for thousands of years.  While some people do return six values at DYS464, instead of four, it's more likely that A-DNA read the marker differently than it is that this difference represents a mutation.  He is being retested at FTDNA, so we shall see whether they come up with four alleles or six.  I implore everyone considering being tested to do so with FTDNA, from the start; otherwise, you will likely end up having to do what this individual has had to do, that is, having to pay for being tested twice.  If you have any intention of eventually joining this project, it's invariably going to end up being false economy to get tested elsewhere, first.
Another unexpected result is the match with #97358, surnamed BELEW.  The match is 67/67 leaving no doubt that he is closely related to the other individuals in this table.  It does appear this individual has an NPE in his lineage, and it's not insignificant that, for decades, the BELEWs lived in close association with the STROUPs of Jefferson Co., MO. 
A further unexpected result is the match with #50052, surnamed CRUMP, who apparently has an NPE in his lineage.  Some further testing of cousins is needed to pinpoint the STROUP in his patrilineal line.
Results for #130123 support the contention of early researchers that the John Peter STROUP of Wythe Co., VA, is the Johann Peter STRAUB who was son of Mathias Andreas STRAUB, son of the immigrant.  Two other paper descendants of John Peter have been tested, and each has an NPE in his lineage (see Node Chart for John Peter).
Three of the above individuals have been deep SNP tested, namely, #26156, #23492, and #24212; and, as expected, they all had the same results:
P19+ M170+ M258+ P30+ P38+ M253+ M307+ M21- M72- M227- P37.2- M26- M161- M223-
The positive SNP tests prove they are I1 (see I1 table above).  The negative results for M21, M72, and M227 rule out their belonging to any known subclade of I1, which means, based on the current haplogroup tree, they are root/ancestral I1*.  The remaining negative results rule out their being any form of I1b (see I1b table). 

With two separate lines now deep SNP tested (one line redundantly, in the case of the two brothers), the probability that the remaining descendants of Johann Pieter will have the same SNP test results is a virtual certainty.  Also, keep in mind that a value of 8 at DYS455 makes being I1 a virtual certainty.  Therefore, your project admin recommends that other members of this family invest in testing advanced STR markers, rather than SNP testing. 
#23492 has been ordering advanced Haplogroup I SNPs as they become available from EthnoAncestry:
S62+ S63+ S64+ S65+ S66+ S107+ S108+ S109+ S110+ S111+ P40+ P109- P259-
So far, the ten S-series SNPs have simply proven to be redundant for determining I1, (see table above).  Our subject is negative (ancestral) for P109 and P259, so he remains root I1*. Being negative (ancestral) for the last two is, so far, correlated with being the AngloSaxon variety of I1.  The positive (derived) condition for P109 has cropped up in the I1-Norse variety, so it may eventually serve to divide that group.
As of Oct 2008, the "Deep-Clade-I" test at FTDNA consists of a different suite of SNPs than those tested above.  The CRUMP (#50052) has undergone this test:
P30+ M253+ M21- M227- P109- P259-
The positive SNPs prove he is I1; the negative SNPs prove he is no known subclade of I1, confirming he also is root/ancestral I1*. 
Because we have four different lines in this family matching 67/67, we need to find more markers to separate them.  With the purchase of DNA-Fingerprint (in July of 2006), Family Tree DNA began offering DNA-FP's extensive suite of "advanced" DNA tests.  Hopefully, some of these markers will give us the separaton we need.  In terms of determining modality of markers, the two brothers should really be considered as one indicator.  So, given that their results are identical, I have lumped the two brothers together in the "advanced" marker tables.
Among the Y-DNA "Advanced Tests" offered by FTDNA are the nine markers tested by SMGF (the Sorensen Molecular Genealogy Foundation) that are not among the Standard 67 markers tested by FTDNA.  SMGF has a huge online database, so when choosing additonal markers to test, the logical first choice would be to test these nine markers, especially as the SMGF database is the one most relied upon by Nordtvedt in defining varieties of Haplogroup I.  So far, three of our members have opted for these nine tests:
The Nine "Missing" SMGF Markers from DNA-FP
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I1-AS5 Modal Values 12 12 13 21 11 16 11 31 21
STROUP 78741 H5K5T 12 13 14 21 11 16  9 31 21
STRAUB
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23492		 BUHB7
EJJQA		 12 13 14 21 11 16  9 31 21
STRAUB 111298 47F2N 12 13 14 21 11 16  9 31 21
STROUP A-DNA - 12         16     21
The two brothers match, as expected, but so does #78741 and #111298, so we didn't get the separation we were looking for.  A check at Ysearch and SMGF shows that they have no matches in either database for these nine markers and that it's the value of 9 at DYS445 that's preventing them from having any matches because this value is very rare.  Overall, using the SMGF database figures (as of July 2008), only 16 people out of 21,006 people tested (0.076%) are 9 at this marker.  Within Haplogroup I1, this family is unique in having a value of 9 at this marker.  We also have an unexpected value for DYS462.

There are two markers that strongly separate Nordtvedt's AngloSaxon (AS) varieties from his Norse/ultraNorse (N/uN) varieties.  These are DYS511 and DYS462, which are 9,12 in AS and 10,13 in N/uN (I've color-coded the table cells "kelly green" for AS and "royal blue" for N/uN).  What's interesting is that this STRAUB/STROUP family is typically AngloSaxon for DYS511 (the column of 9's highlighted in kelly green in the main table above), but typically Norse/ultraNorse for DYS462 (the column of 13's highlighted royal blue in the small table here).
EthnoAncestry (EA) tests ten STR markers formerly not tested by any other laboratory; they are now offered by FTDNA among their Advanced tests as "Y-STR DNA-FP Panel 9." 
EthnoAncestry "YSTR FT Upgrade"  =  FTDNA "Panel 9"
(Markers in red are fast mutating. Modals per Nordtvedt, 4 Aug 2007.)
Surname FTDNA # Ysearch
User ID		 4
9
4		 5
0
5		 5
2
2		 5
3
3		 5
4
9		 5
5
6		 5
7
5		 5
8
9		 6
3
6		 6
3
8
I1 modal values