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Node Chart for the Descendants of John Peter STROUP (1760s-1857) of Wythe Co., VA
and Anthony NEWHOUSE I (c1706-1762/3) of Philadelphia, PA
The STRAUB Y-chromosome DNA Surname Project has three members with paper descents from John Peter STROUP of Wythe Co., VA, each from a different son of John Peter.  Their test results do not remotely match, indicating they cannot possibly have a near common ancestor and, thus, that at least two of them have an NPE in their lineage.  It turns out that one of them (viz., #130123), the descendant of son John, matches descendants of Johann Pieter STRAUB I, the 1733 immigrant to Philadephia, so he would appear to be genuine STROUP, while the others bear the NPEs.

The individual with the paper descent through son Jacob (viz., #34371) has a strong DNA match to five tested members of a NEWHOUSE family (originally German NEUHAUS) tested for the NEWHOUSE Surname Project.  There is a place in this STROUPE individual's paper lineage that I had suspected was an adoption, even before these DNA test results returned.  Specifically, there is reason to believe Jacob Jackson STROUP was adopted and, in the chart below, I'm assuming that's where the NPE took place, though that assumption may not be correct.

The descendant through son, Peter (viz., #24073), has the M222+ SNP mutation making him the "Northwest Irish" subclade of R1b.  He has some near matches with surname DOHERTY / DOUGHERTY, and his ancestors have some nearby families of that surname in the censuses, so we may have found his true surname though more work needs to be done to prove it.

With the testing of enough cousins, a genetic "tree" of a progenitor's descendants can be constructed showing where in each lineage mutations have occurred.  Such a tree can be extremely useful in proving (or debunking) paper genealogies.  The table below is a way of representing such a tree.  It is very much like the table I use to represent Haplogroup R1b.  Both tables are, in fact, representations of cladograms, like the Y-DNA cladogram.  I'm using tables, instead of graphical "trees" simply because the former are much easier to create and edit (I don't want to have to open a drawing program every time I work on them or upload a new JPG every time I've changed it).
#24073 has generously offered to fund the testing of another descendant of John Peter, one not descended on the lines already tested (a descendant of John, son of John Peter, is in the process of being tested).  This leaves us with one more line from John Peter to test, namely that of George.  Others desirable testees for this individual would be a descendant of Samuel Patton's brother, Russell; one of George V's brothers, William or James J.; or John Franklin's brother, George WilliamThe offer is to fully fund a 12-marker test (value $103).  For details and to accept the offer, please contact the project admin.  Acceptance of the test subject is at the discretion of the donor, the major criterion being confidence in the accuracy of the test subject's paper lineage.

Your project admin urges #34371 to make a similar offer, with the same first priority of testing a descendant of John Peter's other son, George, and the next priority being to test a descendant of John Jacob, brother of William, and the brothers of William Henry, namely Lee Hulbert and Frank B.

It is also a priority for the NEWHOUSEs that they test patrilineal descendants of the other two sons of Anthony NEWHOUSE I, namely, Jonathan and Jacob, to determine whether Anthony was DYS439=13 or 14.

Lastly, I recommend that this STROUP and STROUPE, plus the matching NEWHOUSEs, all upgrade to 67 markers.  We have a difficult knot to unravel here, and the more markers we test, the easier it will be to do and the more confidence we can have in the result.

Members of the NEWHOUSE project have generously shared their results and lineages.  These lineages show they have a common ancestor in Anthony NEWHOUSE I of Philadelphia, PA.  Not insignificantly, one of Anthony's sons, namely Isaac NEWHOUSE I, moved to Virginia, first to Fauquier County, then to Wythe County where, in 1795, he bought land adjacent to a STROUP!  This STROUP has to be John Peter STROUP as the only STROUP known to be in Wythe County who was old enough to be owning land.
The chart below is set up to explore the NPE issues for both of John Peter STROUP's paper descendants with the NPEs.  As mentioned above, both individuals need to test cousins to determine the location of the NPE in their lineages.  For the Irish individual, we have as yet only a hint at who his actual patrilineal ancestor might be, but for the NEWHOUSE indivdual, we are much further along and are ready to construct a working hypothesis of his connections.

For this chart, I am making the assumption that Jacob Jackson STROUP was adopted.  As there was only one adult male NEWHOUSE known to be living in Wythe or Washington Co. at the time Jacob was conceived, namely, John4 NEWHOUSE (Isaac II3, Isaac I2, Anthony1), I'm assuming he was Jacob Jackson's father.  This assumption may not be correct, so please consider this chart a working hypothesis, a tool to explore this queston.  With enough testing, we should be able to sufficiently support this connection to be totally confident it is the correct one.

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Hg is an abbreviation for Haplogroup.
Generation Remarks
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Johann Pieter
STRAUB I
Hg I1-AS5
Mathias
Andreas
STRAUB
John Peter
STROUP
Peter
STROUP
Samuel
Patton
STROUP
George V.
STROUP
John Franklin
STROUP
STROUP
#24073
Hg R1b1b2a1b5
    This individual has an NPE in his lineage somewhere between himself and John Peter.  He has the M222+ SNP mutation making him the "Northwest Irish" subclade of R1b.
George William
STROUP
      Until these lines are tested, we won't know where the NPE in the lineage of #24073 occurred.
William
STROUP
       
James J.
STROUP
       
Russell
STROUP
         
John
STROUP
Andrew J.
STROUP
Charles H.
STROUP
William Henry
STROUP
Sidney Crockett
STROUP
Pvt
STROUPE
 STROUPE
#130123
Hg I1-AS5
This individual's testing is not complete,
but so far, he has acquired no mutations
in his descent from Johann Pieter.
George
STROUP
            Seeking descendant of George for DNA testing. 
Jacob
STROUP
no issue
Jacob Jackson
STROUP
John Jacob
STROUP
        If Jacob Jackson was the adopted son in this lineage, we would expect descendants on all three of these lines to match #34371, with at most a difference of one mutation.
William
STROUP
Lee Hulbert
STROUP
     
Frank B.
STROUP
     
William Henry
STROUPE
Pvt
STROUPE
STROUPE
#34371
Hg R1b1b2
  This individual has a 37/37 match with the modal haplotype of descendants of Anthony NEWHOUSE I. 
Anthony
NEWHOUSE
I
Isaac
NEWHOUSE
I
Isaac
NEWHOUSE II
John
NEWHOUSE
John M.
NEWHOUSE
William Thomas
NEWHOUSE I
William Thomas
NEWHOUSE II
Noah Franklin
NEWHOUSE
NEWHOUSE
#48567
      This (now deceased) individual bears the modal haplotype for this NEWHOUSE family. Like the above STROUPE, he has acquired no mutations in his descent from Anthony NEWHOUSE I.
Peter Miller
NEWHOUSE
DYS391
11 > 12
James Marshall
NEWHOUSE
Pvt
NEWHOUSE
NEWHOUSE
#58672
DYS447
25 > 26
      Because mutations are rare, I've tried to separate this line's two mutations by as many generations as possible, but in fact we do not know when the mutations occurred or even which mutation occurred first, except that neither could have occurred before Peter Miller.
David
NEWHOUSE
DYS439
13 > 14
Isaac
NEWHOUSE
Isaac L.
NEWHOUSE
William Hanson
NEWHOUSE
Daniel Winter
NEWHOUSE
Pvt
NEWHOUSE
NEWHOUSE
#54118
DYS460
10 > 11
  This individual bears a
mutation not possessed
by the other two 
descendants of David.
We don't know in which
generation it occurred, but
it was after David.
These three lines bear a mutation not possessed by the other three lines.  The earliest common ancestor on these three lines is David, so the mutation must have occurred with him. Please note that there is an alternate explanation: Anthony I may have been DYS439=14, and it is Isaac I who bears a mutation from 14 to 13 at DYS439.  I have arbitrarily selected 14 as the derived condition because 13 is closer to the modal value for R1b1c, which is 12, and is, thus, presumed ancestral.  We'll know for certain which is the case after we test someone who descends from Anthony I through either son Jonathan or son Jacob.
Anthony
NEWHOUSE
William
NEWHOUSE
Joseph
NEWHOUSE
John Lafayette
NEWHOUSE
Pvt
NEWHOUSE
NEWHOUSE
#36476
   
Samuel
NEWHOUSE
Alexander
NEWHOUSE
William Newton
NEWHOUSE
Pvt
NEWHOUSE
NEWHOUSE
#46428
   
Jonathan
NEWHOUSE
                The highest testing priority here is for patrilineal descendants of Jonathan and Jacob, to see whether they match Isaac or David and, thus, to determine which of them has the actual mutation at DYS439.
Jacob
NEWHOUSE
               
A change in the color of a row indicates a mutation has appeared (the mutation itself is in red boldface text).
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