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"Danish Demes"
Lineages and Results of Y-chromosome DNA Testing for a Regional Danish DNA Project
Haplogroup R1b
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Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype — WAMH / SWAMH
R1b is the most common haplogroup in western Europe, so it is not surprising that it is a common haplogroup in the project.  It is the group believed to have re-populated Europe from an Iberian refugium when the last glacial ice sheet retreated about 10-12,000 years ago.  Of the many haplotypes represented within R1b, the most common 12-marker haplotype is called the "Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype"; when extended across all markers, it has been called the "Super Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype."  In the results tables below, the R1b modal haplotype is highlighted in cyan and is used as an arbitrary standard against which to compare our R1b members.  Because the most common subclade of R1b is R1b1b2 (old R1b1c), the modal values for R1b are also those of R1b1b2.  The modal value for each marker is taken independently.  No one individual is modal for all values, so no one actually has this entire haplotype.  FTDNA members whose 12-marker haplotype matches one of the four most common 12-marker R1b haplotypes will find they have a WAMH logo on their member page.  We have five such members in Danish Demes.
Of our nineteen R1b members, test results show none is closely related to any of the others, except (not surprisingly) for the LORENZEN father and son, the VICK father and son, and the two MATTHIESEN half-brothers.  We have one individual who, with just 12 markers tested, is a match with the WAMH and with two other members.  However, at 25 markers or above, the other two do not match each other (or anyone else).  Unless this individual upgrades to more markers, we've no way to know if he would match either of the other two.

With regard to grouping our R1b members, the problem is that all of the R1b's are R1b1b2, and only five members have been deep SNP tested proving their R1b subclade.  The search for additional SNPs to further divide R1b1b2 is ongoing in the pursuit of being able to further subdivide this large group.  I would urge all our R1b members to be deep SNP tested and to take additional tests as new SNPs are discovered.  In the interim, all I can do is divide test subjects into these groupings:

R1b1b2
(n = 9 / 8)		 R1b1b2 - WAMH
(n = 5 / 5)		 R1b1b2g
(n = 2 / 1)		 R1b1b2g - WAMH
(n = 2 / 1)		 R1b1b2h
(n = 1 / 1)
(n = number of individuals / number of lineages)
[The reason there are both R1b1b2's and R1b1b2g's who are WAMH is that, if SNP tested, the R1b1b2's would turn out to be R1b1b2g.]
Several new SNPs, currently with temporary labels because they remain unpublished, are being offered by testing companies, including FTDNA.  As FTDNA has not altered their haplotree to include them, I have continued to show (below) the current FTDNA haplotree.  As soon as the placement of these new SNP is determined, I will update the chart.
Haplogroup R1b Subclades as Defined by SNP Mutations
Mutations FTDNA Subclade Remarks
M207/UTY2 M306/S1 P224 P227 P229 P232 P280 P285 S4 S8 S9 R Eurasia
__ M173/P241 P225 P231 P233 P234 P236 P238 P242 P286 P294 R1 Eurasia
__ -SRY10831.2/-SRY1532.2 [back mutation] R1a Eurasian Steppe, Eastern Europe 
__ M17 M198 R1a1  
__ M56 R1a1a  
M157 R1a1b  
M64.2 M87 M204 R1a1c  
P98 R1a1d
PK5 R1a1e  
M343 R1b SW Asia, Europe, especially western Europe 
__ P25 R1b1  
__ M18 R1b1a Sardinia 
P297 R1b1b  
__ M73 R1b1b1 (old R1b1b) central Asia
M269 S3 S10 S13 S17 R1b1b2 (old R1b1c) Europe, predominantly western
__ M37 R1b1b2a (old R1b1c1) European Australians
M65 R1b1b2b (old R1b1c2) Basque 
M153 R1b1b2c (old R1b1c4) Spanish; New World Latinos
SRY2627 / M167 R1b1b2d (old R1b1c6) Iberia; SW England and Ireland
M222 / USP9Y+3636 R1b1b2e (old R1b1c7) NW Ireland; W Scotland; "Niall"
P66 R1b1b2f (old R1b1c8) Italy
U106 / S21 / M405 R1b1b2g (old R1b1c9) 25% of western European males —
found in Norway, Italy, Germany, Scotland, England,
Ireland, Wales; includes the "Frisian" group
(40% of men in northern Holland are S21+)
__ U198 / S29 / M467 R1b1b2g1 (old R1b1c9b) null439; concentrated in England —
also found in Spain, Norway, southern Germany
P107 R1b1b2g2 confined to England (pre-Anglo-Saxon)
U152 / S28 R1b1b2h (old R1b1c10) 10% of western European males —
found in Greece, Italy, Switzerland, Germany,
France, Poland, Norway, Netherlands, Scotland,
England, Wales
__ M126 R1b1b2h1 (old R1b1c3) European 
M160 R1b1b2h2 (old R1b1c5) European
S68 R1b1b2i (old R1b1c11) <5% of R1b's — found in Sweden and Scotland
currently tested only by EthnoAncestry
M335 R1b1c (old R1b1d)  
M124 P249 P267 R2 Asia, especially central and southern (India)
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Red labels indicate markers that typically mutate more frequently than those labeled in black. Marker 464 mutates most rapidly of all and sometimes has five to seven counts (a-g), not just four (a-d).
(Empty cells that are darkened indicate tests not ordered.)
Haplogroup Subclade R1b1b2
R1b1b2 — Deme 1
Surname Kit # YSearch
User ID
SNP
Test		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
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9
4		 3
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8
5		 b
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8
8		 4
3
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9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
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4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
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G
A
T
A		 IIa
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Y
C
A		 IIb
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Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
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C
D
Y		 b
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C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
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S1
3
9
5		 b
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S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
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4
1
3		 b
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4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
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0		 5
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4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values 55GU9   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per Charles Kerchner.
                 
HAUSO N44326     13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 28                                                                                                               Pvt4, Pvt3, Magnus2, Jens Ludwig HAUSO1 — of Bredebro, Brede Sogn, TH&L Herred, Tønder Amt, DK
#N44326 is a transfer from the National Geographic Society's Genographic Project.  Based on 12 markers, he is deduced to be R1b1b2.  This individual has an uncommon haplotype (for an R1b1b2) with only five matches in the FTDNA database.
   
R1b1b2 — Deme 2
Surname Kit # YSearch
User ID
SNP
Test		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
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3
8
5		 4
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6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
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4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
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G
A
T
A		 IIa
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Y
C
A		 IIb
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Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
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C
D
Y		 b
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C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
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S1
3
9
5		 b
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S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
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4
1
3		 b
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4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values 55GU9   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per Charles Kerchner.
                 
JENSEN N29988 46R5B Deep1 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 11 14 13 30 18 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 29 15 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 18 35 38 12 12 12 9 15 16 8 10 11 8 10 10 12 17 21 16 10 12 12 13 8 12 24 20 13 13 11 13 11 11 12 12 Pvt9, Pvt8, Karl JENSEN7, Anders Jensen6, Jens Andersen5, Anders Christensen4, Christen Andersen3, Anders Nielsen2, Niels1 — of Hvejsel Sogn, Nørvang Herred, Vejle Amt, DK
1Deep SNP tests pending (Batch 261: expected 9/5).
#N29988 is a transfer from the National Geographic Society's Genographic Project, who has upgraded his testing to 37 markers.  While this individual has over a dozen matches at 12 markers, he has only a few near matches at 25 markers, and no full or even near matches at 37 markers.  For now, his haplotype remains unique, at least in the FTDNA database.
   
R1b1b2 — Deme 3
Surname Kit # YSearch
User ID
SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
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8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
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9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
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4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
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G
A
T
A		 IIa
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Y
C
A		 IIb
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Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
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C
D
Y		 b
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C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
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S1
3
9
5		 b
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S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
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4
1
3		 b
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4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values 55GU9   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per Charles Kerchner.
                 
LORENZEN 50884 NEBCN   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 13 14 13 30 19 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 30 15 15 18 18                                                                                     Pvt8, Joh. Wilhelm7, Linius Theodore6, Peter Christian LORENZEN5, Lorenz Lorenzen4, Lauritz Lauritzen3, Lauritz Lauritzen2, Lauritz1 of Rudbøl, Højer Sogn, TH&L Herred, Tønder Amt, DK
LORENZEN 66810 X8S7J   13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 13 14 13 30 19 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 30 15 15 18 18 11 11 19 22 16 15 17 17 36 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 11 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 18 8 13 23 21 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 Pvt9, Pvt8, Joh. Wilhelm7, Linius Theodore6, Peter Christian LORENZEN5, Lorenz Lorenzen4, Lauritz Lauritzen3, Lauritz Lauritzen2, Lauritz1 of Rudbøl, Højer Sogn, TH&L Herred, Tønder Amt, DK
Not surprisingly, this father and son match each other perfectly.  Beyond that, however, they have an uncommon haplotype with only a few dozen matches at 12 markers (in other surnames) and no full or even near matches at 25 or higher markers, except with each other.
   
R1b1b2 — Deme 4
Surname Kit # YSearch
User ID
SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
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3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4
6
4		 d
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4
6
4		 4
6
0		 H4
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G
A
T
A		 IIa
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Y
C
A		 IIb
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Y
C
A		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 a
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C
D
Y		 b
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C
D
Y		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 a
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S1
3
9
5		 b
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S1
3
9
5		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 S1
4
0
6		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 a
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4
1
3		 b
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4
1
3		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5
R1b Modal Values 55GU9   13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 Modals per Charles Kerchner.
                 
ERIKSEN 86729 -   13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 20 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 26 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 17 17 17 36 37 11 12                                                             Pvt [awaiting lineage] Frederick Carl1 JØRGENSEN — of Nyborg, Nyborg Sogn, Vindinge Herred, Svendborg Amt, DK
This individual has several dozen matches at 12 markers (all in other surnames and outside the project), but no full or even near matches at 25 or 37 markers.  His haplotype remains unique.
   
R1b1b2 — Deme 5
Surname Kit # YSearch
User ID
SNP
Tests		 Haplotype — as determined by STR testing Known Lineage
Markers 1-12 Markers 13-25 Markers 26-37 Markers 38-67
3
9
3		 3
9
0
19
/
3
9
4		 3
9
1		 a
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3
8
5		 b
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3
8
5		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 i
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3
8
9		 3
9
2		 ii
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3
8
9		 4
5
8		 a
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4
5
9		 b
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4
5
9		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 a
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4
6
4		 b
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4
6
4		 c
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4