Haplogroup
J2a1b* (= J2a2 = old J2f)
| The mutation defining this subclade (M67) occurred an estimated 11.6
± 2.6 thousand years ago. Today, the subclade is distributed
thinly throughout southern and eastern Europe, the Middle East, and northern
Africa, but is concentrated in Italy and the countries surrounding the
eastern Black Sea, namely, Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, and southern Russia.
See Figure
2, Map E in Semino et al. (2004. American Journal of Human
Genetics 74(5):1023-1034) for distribution of J2a1b. |
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Surname |
Kit # |
Ysearch
UserID |
SNP
Tests |
Haplotype
— as determined by STR testing |
Known
Lineage |
| Markers 1-12 |
Markers 13-25 |
Markers 26-37 |
Markers 38-67 |
3
9
3 |
3
9
0 |
19
/
3
9
4 |
3
9
1 |
a
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3
8
5 |
b
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3
8
5 |
4
2
6 |
3
8
8 |
4
3
9 |
i
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3
8
9 |
3
9
2 |
ii
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3
8
9 |
4
5
8 |
a
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4
5
9 |
b
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4
5
9 |
4
5
5 |
4
5
4 |
4
4
7 |
4
3
7 |
4
4
8 |
4
4
9 |
a
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4
6
4 |
b
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4
6
4 |
c
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4
6
4 |
d
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4
6
4 |
4
6
0 |
H4
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G
A
T
A |
IIa
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Y
C
A |
IIb
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Y
C
A |
4
5
6 |
6
0
7 |
5
7
6 |
5
7
0 |
a
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C
D
Y |
b
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C
D
Y |
4
4
2 |
4
3
8 |
5
3
1 |
5
7
8 |
a
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S1
3
9
5 |
b
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S1
3
9
5 |
5
9
0 |
5
3
7 |
6
4
1 |
4
7
2 |
S1
4
0
6 |
5
1
1 |
4
2
5 |
a
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4
1
3 |
b
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4
1
3 |
5
5
7 |
5
9
4 |
4
3
6 |
4
9
0 |
5
3
4 |
4
5
0 |
4
4
4 |
4
8
1 |
5
2
0 |
4
4
6 |
6
1
7 |
5
6
8 |
4
8
7 |
5
7
2 |
6
4
0 |
4
9
2 |
5
6
5 |
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J2 Modals |
9EQTH |
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12 |
23 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
17 |
11 |
16 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
29 |
16 |
8 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
15 |
21 |
29 |
12 |
13 |
15 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
22 |
15 |
14 |
16 |
17 |
35 |
38 |
11 |
9 |
11 |
7 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
17 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
15 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
21 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
Modals compiled by Al Aburto, Jr., as of 1 Jun 2008 (n=304). |
| J2a1b Modals |
- |
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12 |
23 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
17 |
11 |
16 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
30 |
18 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
15 |
20 |
29 |
12 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
22 |
15 |
13 |
19 |
17 |
35 |
38 |
12 |
9 |
10 |
7 |
15 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
17 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
21 |
21 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
Modals compiled by DGM from Y-DNA
Hap J Project as of 1 Jun 2008 (for 12, n=47; for 25, n=39; for 37,
n=37; for 67, n=20). |
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CARRICO |
107978 |
CUYPH |
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12 |
21 |
15 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
11 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
21 |
30 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
10 |
19 |
22 |
18 |
14 |
19 |
16 |
35 |
37 |
11 |
9 |
12 |
7 |
15 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
9 |
10 |
17 |
17 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
16 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
21 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
Pvt7, Pvt6, Thomas Francis5,
Joseph Haesley4, William Constantine3, Ignatius Francis2,
Cornelius,
the younger1 |
| 1 |
CARRICO |
94556 |
- |
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12 |
21 |
15 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
11 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
21 |
30 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
10 |
19 |
22 |
18 |
14 |
20 |
16 |
35 |
37 |
11 |
9 |
12 |
7 |
15 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
9 |
10 |
17 |
17 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
16 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
21 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
Pvt7, Pvt6, Otha
Nicholas5, Alphonsus
K.4, Francis
Marion3, Henry
C.2, John
Alexander1 |
| CARRICO |
62917 |
5NKTP |
Deep |
12 |
21 |
15 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
21 |
30 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
10 |
19 |
22 |
18 |
14 |
19 |
16 |
35 |
37 |
11 |
9 |
12 |
7 |
15 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
9 |
10 |
17 |
17 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
16 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
21 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
Pvt9, Pvt8, Floyd
Huston7, Thomas
Elisha6, James5,
Dennis
Sylvester4, James3,
Peter
II2,
Peter
I1 |
| CARRICO |
N9852 |
- |
Basic |
12 |
21 |
15 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
11 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
21 |
30 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
10 |
19 |
22 |
18 |
14 |
19 |
16 |
35 |
36 |
11 |
9 |
12 |
7 |
15 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
9 |
10 |
17 |
17 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
16 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
21 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
Pvt9, Jesse8, Charles
Thomas7, George
Henson6, George
G.5, James
T.4, [James
II or John
I]3,
Peter
II2,
Peter
I1 |
| CARICO |
86809 |
US98T |
Deep |
12 |
21 |
15 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
11 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
21 |
30 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
10 |
19 |
22 |
18 |
14 |
19 |
16 |
35 |
38 |
11 |
9 |
12 |
7 |
15 |
15 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
9 |
10 |
17 |
17 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
16 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
21 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
Pvt9, Pvt8, Onia
Lee7, Samuel
Lafayette6, Alexander5,
Joseph4,
Abel
II3,
Abel
I2,
Peter
I1 |
| ? |
CARRICO |
121108 |
- |
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12 |
21 |
15 |
9 |
12 |
17 |
11 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
30 |
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Pvt [awaiting lineage], Edward2,
Cornelius,
the elder1 |
| Our subjects' haplotypes are unique, with no full or even near matches
at any level in the FTDNA or Ysearch databases, except with each other.
#107978 bears the modal haplotype for the group, which is presumed to be
the haplotype of their common ancestor. None of the others tested
to 67 markers has less than a 66/67 match with the modal haplotype or less
than a 65/67 match with each other. These matches are
close,
demonstrating without doubt that they descend from a near common ancestor.
Their haplotypes are not only unique, their closest matches at Ysearch
have genetic distances in the realm of 5 at 12 markers, 17 at 25 markers,
and 21 at 37 markers. These genetic distances are
large, and
they mean no one remotely related to them "in genealogical time" has yet
been tested. There are no comparable test subjects, at all, in the
SMGF (Sorensen Molecular Genealogy Foundation) database. They are
even a poor match (5/12, 11/25, 17/37, 38/67) for the modal values of their
own haplogroup subclade. Their lack of matches stems in part from
unusual values at four markers (green table cells): DYS390 (most
commonly 23, less commonly 22, rarely 21), DYS391 (generally 10,
rarely 9 or 11), DYS392 (usually 11 in Haplogroup J), and especially, DYS425
(usually 12 — 10 is unique). |
| Once there are enough participants in the study, we will be able to
build an STR "cladogram" of the descendants of Peter CARRICO I. I
have begun such a cladogram, in the form of a "node chart." Please
consider this
version of the node chart to be highly prelimary, constructed mainly
as a demonstration of how our data can eventually be used. |
#62917 and #86809 have completed deep SNP testing, with these results:
| M304+ M172+ M67+ |
M267- M62- M365- M390- M367- M368- M369- |
M47- M92- M163- M166- M68- M158- M339- M137- |
M12- M102- M205- M99- M280- |
The three positive SNP test results prove they are subclade J2a2
(in the FTDNA classification) or J2a1b (in the ISOGG classification,
which I will follow). The first set of negative results redundantly
proves they are not J1 or any of its subclades, known at the time they
were tested. The second set of negative results redundantly proves
they are none of the other J2a subclades tested by FTDNA, and known at
the time they were tested. In addition, our members have a value
of 17 at DYS413, which is consistent with the ISOGG classification designating
a value of 18 or less for this marker in J2a. The third set of negative
results redundantly proves they are not J2b or any of its subclades, known
at the time they were tested. A backbone (basic) SNP test result
of M172+ confirms that #N9852 is J2.
It's a virtual certainty that all CARRICOs with haplotypes matching
at the above levels will be the same haplogroup (i.e., have
the same SNP mutations). It is beneficial that two members have undergone
these deep tests, just as a double check that no mistake has been made.
But now that two members have completed this testing, your project admin
recommends other members invest in STR testing of additional cousins, rather
than their own deep SNP testing — unless, of course, money is no object
or you're just curious, then test away. There's no such thing as
too much proof! |
| #86809 has undergone a Kittler test proving the order of the two alleles
at 385ab is "lo-hi," that is, 12-17. (Standard testing does not reveal
the order of the two values. By convention, they are reported "lo-hi,"
but without a Kittler test, the actual order is unknown.) Now that
one member has taken the Kittler test, there's no real need for anyone
else to take it as you should all have the same result. |
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Haplogroup
J2a1b — Advanced Tests
| DNA-FP
Panel |
5 |
4 |
4 |
4 |
4 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
2 |
5 |
4 |
9 |
4 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
3 |
9 |
2 |
4 |
4 |
4 |
5 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
4 |
5 |
5 |
5 |
5 |
5 |
5 |
5 |
4 |
Kit
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Ysearch
UserID |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
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D
Y
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D
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D
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D
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D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
D
Y
S |
G
A
T
A |
G
A
A
T |
D
Y
F |
D
Y
F |
D
Y
F |
D
Y
F |
D
Y
F |
D
Y
F |
D
Y
F |
D
X
Y
S |
4
1
3 |
4
3
4 |
4
3
5 |
4
4
1 |
4
4
5 |
4
5
2 |
4
6
1 |
4
6
2 |
4
6
3 |
4
6
4 |
4
8
5 |
4
9
4 |
4
9
5 |
5
0
5 |
5
2
2 |
5
3
3 |
5
4
9 |
5
5
6 |
5
7
5 |
5
8
9 |
6
3
5 |
6
3
6 |
6
4
3 |
7
1
4 |
7
1
6 |
7
1
7 |
7
2
4 |
7
2
5 |
7
2
6 |
A
1
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1
B
07 |
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7
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8
5 |
3
9
7 |
3
9
9 |
4
0
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4
0
8 |
4
1
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5
6 |
| Modals
- all haplogroups |
23 |
23 |
9 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
30 |
12 |
11 |
24 |
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10 |
25 |
26 |
19 |
36 |
37 |
31 |
31 |
31 |
32 |
12 |
13 |
10 |
10c |
12t |
13c |
14c |
10 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
15 |
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15 |
17 |
188 |
188 |
8 |
15 |
11 |
11 |
_,12 |
| J2 Modals |
9EQTH |
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14 |
12 |
31 |
13 |
11 |
22 |
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| #6122.70
- Haplogroup J2f |
17 |
17 |
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14 |
12 |
31 |
12 |
11 |
22 |
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14 |
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24 |
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10 |
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28 |
28 |
31 |
31 |
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9c |
12t |
10c |
14c |
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21 |
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| 86809 |
US98T |
17 |
17 |
9 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
31 |
14 |
11 |
22 |
11g |
12g |
15g |
16g |
16 |
10 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
10 |
13 |
11 |
10 |
11 |
22 |
10 |
10 |
26 |
27 |
20 |
35 |
38 |
28 |
28 |
32 |
32 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
9c |
10t |
10c |
14c |
10 |
10 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
21c |
22t |
24.1t |
16 |
29 |
188 |
188 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
7,12 |
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10t |
10c |
14c |
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| With the acquisition of the German company, DNA-Fingerprint, FTDNA
gained access to their stable of DNA tests. These can be ordered
in panels or "a la carte" among the "Advanced" tests on your FTDNA member
page. So far, one member has ordered many of these tests (i.e.,
the ones not duplicated in the FTDNA 67-marker set), while another member
has added the DYF371 palindromic set.
DYS425 is part of the DYF371 palindromic set. The nearly universal
value for this marker is 12, so its rare value of 10 raised the question
as to whether there are any other anomalies in this set. DYS425 shows
up here as the t-allele in the DYF371 set; our CARRICOs appear to be the
only individuals ever tested to have this value at this marker.
A value of 9 for any of the alleles is uncommon, being known in just a
few individuals, all of whom are Haplogroup J. Our closest match
in the Ymatch database is #6122.70, who is the only J2f (=J2a1b) in the
database; he has the "normal" value of 12 for the t-allele.
To compare results of advanced markers, see the DNA-Fingerprint
Ymatch database. You can pull up all results in the database
by entering % in any field (except "country"). You can pull up results
for all subclades of Haplogroup J by entering just "j" in the "yhgroup"
field. I have compiled modal values of all haplogroups currently
in the database, plus I've extracted the single J2f (=J2a1b) haplotype,
and included those values in the table above.
Don't be confused by the ordering of the numbers in the
database or in your test results. The computer automatically puts
them in alpha-numeric order; hence, the DYF371 results were returned by
the server as 9c-10c-10t-14c. But the single t-allele is customarilly
placed second in comparing results, so their order is changed in the table
above. Not everyone in the Ymatch database corrected the order of
their results as they entered them, so you see the t-allele in various
positions there. |
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