Samuel STROUP & Hannah HALL

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Samuel STROUP
Hannah HALL

Husband: Samuel STROUP
Birth: ca. 1800, PA or NY
Death: 1843-50, Elkhart Co., IN
Father: George STROUP, Sr.
Mother: Susanna RIEGEL

Marriage:

Wife: Hannah HALL
Birth: 1809/10, NY
Death: 1871, York Twp., Elkhart Co., IN
Father: Abner C. HALL
Mother: Phoebe LANE

Children:

— born in Mt. Clemens, Clinton Twp., Macomb Co., MI:
1. Isaac STROUP, b. 1828/9
2. Henry STROUP, b. ca. 1830
3. Phoebe Jane STROUP, b. 9 Mar 1833
4. Caroline STROUP, b. 1834/5

— born in Elkhart Co., IN:
5. William Martin STROUP, b. 1836/7
6. Frances "Fanny" STROUP, b. 1841/2
7. Joseph H. STROUP, b. 1843/4

The location, Mt. Clemens, is given by a descendant of Phoebe Jane's. There's no reason not to believe this location is correct because the 1830 census shows Samuel to be in Clinton Twp.

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In the 1880 census, our subjects' children report these birthplaces for their parents:
• Isaac gives his father's birthplace as PA and his mother's birthplace as NY.
• Henry gives the birthplace of both parents as OH.
• Phoebe Jane gives the birthplace of both parents as NY.
• Joseph gives the birthplace of both parents as PA.
We shouldn't be surprised that the children were confused about their parents' birthplaces considering how the family was split apart after their father's death. Unfortunately, their confusion leaves us uncertain as to where Samuel was born.

Timeline
Year	Location	Event
c1800		birth of Samuel STROUP
1809/10	NY	birth of Hannah HALL
		marriage of Samuel STROUP & Hannah HALL
1828/9		birth of son, Isaac
1830 Census	MI-Terr: Macomb Co.: Clinton Twp.	Samuel STROUP, head-of-household
c1830/1		birth of son, Henry
1833	MI-Terr: Macomb Co.: Clinton Twp.: Mt. Clemens	birth of daughter, Phoebe Jane
1833 Petition	Michigan Territory	Samuel STROUP, signer
1834	MI-Terr: Macomb Co.: Clinton Twp.	Samuel STROUP
1834/5	MI	birth of daughter, Caroline
1836	Michigan Territory to Indiana	family moves
1836/7	IN	birth of son, William Martin
1837	Michigan achieves statehood
1840 Census	IN: Elkhart Co.	Samuel STROUP
1841/2	IN	birth of daughter, Fanny
1843/4	IN	birth of son, Joseph
1843-50		death of Samuel STROUP
1843-50	Indiana to Michigan	family moves
1850 Census	MI: Macomb Co.: Town of Macomb	Hannah STROUP, head-of-household
1850-60	Michigan to Indiana	family moves
1860 Census	IN: Elkhart Co.: York Twp.	Hannah STROUP, head-of-household
1870 Census	IN: Elkhart Co.: York Twp.	Hannah STROUP, head-of-household
1871		death of Hannah (HALL) STROUP

Sources:

1. Marriage Record:

2a. Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 (Broderbund CD-315):

1830 Census Stroup, Samuel MI Macomb Co. Clinton Twp. p. 119

1833 Petition Stroup, Samuel Michigan Territory

1834 Stroup, Samuel MI Macomb Co. Clinton

2b. 1830 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #3 of 6; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1830 MI Macomb Co. Clinton Twp. p. 119 Ln. 14 Samuel Stroup 100 010 - 000 010

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 4 or under 1825-1830 = Isaac (b. 1828/9)

1 male 20-29 1800-1810 = Samuel (b. by 1800)

1 female 20-29 1800-1810 = Hannah (b. 1809/10)

Samuel has the distinction of being the first STROUP in Michigan and the only one in the 1830 Territorial Census of Michigan. His father and siblings followed by 1833.

3. 1840 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #51-52 of 51-52; extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

1840 IN Elkhart Co. pp. 24B-25A/51-52 Ln. 26 Samuel Stroup 120 000 100 - 020 001 000 0100000

These data indicate:

No. & Sex Age Class Therefore Born Individuals Inferred

1 male 4 or under 1835-1840 = Martin (b. 1836/7)

2 males 5-9 1830-1835 = Henry (b. ca. 1830/1)
= Isaac (b. 1828/9)

1 male 40-49 1790-1800 = Samuel (b. 1800)

2 females 5-9 1830-1835 = Caroline (b. 1834/5)
= Phoebe Jane (b. 1833)

1 female 30-39 1800-1810 = Hannah (b. 1809/10)

1 person employed in agriculture

Isaac is in the wrong age class.

4a. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #12 of 19 — indexed "Strout" and "Strong"): Town of Macomb, Macomb Co., MI, p. 32B/64, 460/465, enumerated 28 Aug 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Isaac Hall 43 M Farmer 1000 NY

[Isaac's wife and children]

Hannah Stroup 40 F NY

Fanny " 8 F Ind

Joseph " 6 M "

Isaac is Hanna's brother. Fanny and Joseph, plus the child in the next record living with Hannah's sister, are the only STROUPs in the county who were born in Indiana.

4b. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #18-19 of 19 — indexed "Strout"): Town of Macomb, Macomb Co., MI, pp. 35B-36A/70-71, 510/515, enumerated 30 Aug 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Charles Crittenden 59 M Farmer 2000 Mass

Catherine " 57 F NY

Martin Stroub 13 M Ind

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Sarah Gamber 54 F NY

Catherine (HALL) CRITTENDEN and Sarah (HALL) GAMBER are Hannah's sisters. Listed next to Aaron CONKLIN, whose wife, Susannah HALL, is also Hannah's sister.

4c. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #10-11 of 21): Washington Twp., Elkhart Co., IN, pp. 45A-45B, enumerated 17 Aug 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

John Frizzle 38 M Farmer Ohio

Mrs Frizzle 34 F Germany

Ruth     " 14 F Ohio

Wilmina " 8 F "

Mary A   " 5 F "

Benjamin " 4 M Ind

James    " 2 M "

Jane Stroup 17 F 550 Mich

Caroline " 15 F "

I have not found a family connection between STROUP and FRIZZLE/FRIZZELL.

4d. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #27-28 of 28): Middlebury Twp., Elkhart Co., IN, pp. 80A-80B, 1094/1123, enumerated 4 Sep 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Horace Halstead 27 M Farmer 1000 NY

Elizabeth " 24 F "

Arthur " ⁸/₁₂ M Ind

[next page]

Wm Halstead 12 M Mich

Caroline Stroup 16 F "

Caroline seems to have managed to get herself enumerated twice, which is not unusual for a child being shuttled about. I have not found a family connection between STROUP and HALSTEAD.

4e. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #197 of 481 — indexed "Huey Stroup" and as being on p. 48): Diamond Springs, El Dorado Co., CA, p. 348B/694, 4/4, enumerated 31 Sep 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

Robert W Rundell 25 M Miner 500 Va

Henry Stroup 21 M " Unknown

Wm F Tracy 22 M " Ky

John E Fletcher 23 M Carpenter "

Geo W Miller 23 M " "

Henry had to have been 20 or younger, unless the 1830 census is wrong about there being only one child in the household. The fact that Henry gives younger ages in later censuses (28 in 1860, 39 in 1870, and 50 in 1880), suggests that he was not as old as 21 in 1850, and keep in mind that he had legal reasons to assert he was of age. Also, Henry may not have been the informant, so it may have been up to one of his roommates to supply his age and birthplace, which would certainly account for Henry's birthplace being listed as "unknown."

4f. 1850 Census Index/Images (online at Ancestry.com; Image #36 of 135 — indexed as being on p. 84): "Placervile and its vicinity," El Dorado Co., CA, Roll 34 (Book 1), p. 284A, __/19, enumerated 31 Oct 1850, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1850 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

Isaac Stroup 21 M none Mich'n

Henry and Isaac are the only STROUPs in California and, thus, the first STROUPs in California.

5a. 1860 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com, Image #5 of 16): Middlebury P.O., York Twp., Elkhart Co., IN, Roll 156 (Book 1), p. 198, PN 34,
230/230, enumerated 18 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Hannah Stroup 49 F Farmer 900 200 NY

Joseph " 14 M Ind

5b. 1860 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com, Image #4 of 16): Middleburg P.O., York Twp, Elkhart Co., IN, Roll 256 (Book 1), p. 197, PN 33, 222/222, enumerated 18 Jul 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

George Nailer 34 M Farmer 2300 500 Penn

[George's wife and children]

Wm M Stroup 23 M Farm Laborer Mich

Martin is apparently William Martin.

5c. 1860 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com, Image #13 of 18 — indexed "L. Stroup," but this enumerator's capital L's and S's were indistiguishable): Cedarville P.O., Cosumnes Twp., El Dorado Co., CA, Roll 58 (Book 1), p. 1172, PN 410, 4361/4361, enumerated 15 Sep 1860, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1860 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):

L/S Stroup 28 M Miner 1300 NY

H Pratt 34 M do 100 Mo

The initial is wrong and there is the usual erroneous (but near to the mark) stab at his birthplace, but this has to be son Henry.

6. 1870 Census Index/Images (online at Genealogy.com; Image #5 of 24): Goshen P.O., York Twp., Elkhart Co., IN, Roll 311 (Book 1), p. 496A, 41/41, enumerated 8 Jun 1870, official enumeration date 1 Jun 1870 (extracted by Diana Gale Matthiesen):¤•

Stroup Hannah 59 F W Keeps House 800 NY

Living next to her son, Joseph STROUP.

7. Jean C. Tombaugh & Wendell C. Tombaugh. 1993. Fulton County Indiana Cemetery Inscriptions (with Genealogical Notes): Rochester Township. Tombaugh House, Rochester, IN (online at the Fulton County, Indiana, Library web site; no pagination):

McKEE CEMETERY
This abandoned burying ground is on the old Alonzo Sheets (more recently Joseph Richards) farm, on 250N about one and three-tenths mile west of 250N & 400W, in Rochester Township, Fulton County, Indiana. It is at the very back of a field about two city blocks north of the road. Stones were read as found, not in any rows. Readings made in 1975...
Two other McKee families, living in Rochester Twp in 1850, near the Anthony W. McKee household, and who were probably related, were: (1) David A. McKee b. 1816 Ohio, identified as a "miller" in 1860 census, m. (by 1841) Sarah A., and it was this family, with whom Reubin Stroup resided in 1850. (2)...
1935 reveals: David A. McKee, d. Feb 20, 1873, ae 56y-3m-25d. He resided in Rochester 1860, in Newcastle Twp in 1870, and his widow was living in Bloomingsburg, Newcastle Twp in 1880.]
STROUP, Reuben, son of J. & M., d. Dec 14, 1853, ae 16y-5d
[NOTE: There is no clear certainty as to the names of the parents of Reuben Strout. The name is spelled several ways: Stroup, Stroub, Straub, Stroab and Strobe.
Indiana Census 1840, includes: Samuel Stroup, in Elkhart Co. Barnhart's History of Fulton Co Ind, p. 32, states that Samuel Stroub was an early settler of Wayne Twp., Fulton Co., in 1840. Fulton Co Ind Early Tract Book, shows that Samuel Stroab of Cass Co Ind purchased land in Wayne Twp, 1841. Also Fulton Co Ind Commissioners Record "A", includes the name of Samuel Stroub in the list of Petit Jurors for Sept. Term 1843. And lastly, concerning the estate of Samuel Stroub, Admr., Jacob Shafer, was appt'd Sept. 29, 1849, and Final Report was accepted July Term 1854 (Jean C. & Wendell C. Tombaugh, Fulton Co Ind Probate Docket "A", 1836-1856).
Martha Stroub, b. ca. 1814 Penn, might have been the mother of Reuben Stroup. Obviously, Martha first m. a Stroup, and next Spencer Gill Dec. 25, 1849. Spencer Gill was a resident of Ripley Co Ind in 1840 (Census; also seeFulton Co Ind M.R.) Spencer Gill and his wife, Martha, his four children, and her son Silas V. Stroub (ae 3yr) were residents of Fulton Co Ind, Wayne Twp, in 1850 Census. The Fulton Co Ind Census 1860, reflects still a third marriage for Martha, and Fulton Co Ind M.R. indicate that on Nov. 15, 1857, Martha Gill m. Samuel Stubbs.
Samuel and Elias Stubb and Joseph Stroup were all residents of Shelby Co Ind in 1840, and were perhaps acquainted before coming to Fulton Co.
Samuel Stubbs, 1814-1889 (Fulton Co Ind Cem, Union Twp) and his 2nd wife, Martha, his four children, and her three children: Silas M. Stroub (ae 14yr), Albert A. Stroub (ae 11yr), and Mary Gill (ae 7yr), residents of Wayne Twp, Fulton Co Ind (Census 1860)
Fulton Co Ind Guardianship Index indicates that guardianship papers were filed on April 5, 1855, for Silas Strobe; final report date April 19, 1866. Silas M. Stroub was a Pvt Co A, 155 Regt Ind, in the Civil War (Peattie, History of Fulton Co Ind, p. 12)...

David McKEE was, indeed, related to Anthony W. McKEE: David was Anthony's son. David McKEE's wife was Sarah Ann (STROUP, daughter of Joseph STROUP & Mary TUCKER. Reuben STROUP was a brother of Sarah Ann (STROUP) McKEE. The Samuel STROUP in the 1840 census of Elkhart Co., IN, is not related to Reuben STROUP and Sarah Ann (STROUP) McKEE of Fulton Co., IN.

8. Archives of the MIMACOMB-L mailing list (online at RootsWeb.com).

9. Messages in the Stroup Family Genealogy Forum (online at GenForum.com).

10. Messages posted to the Stroup Surname Board (online at Ancestry.com).

11. Emails from Darrel Carter, who has a diary by son, Henry STROUP.

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